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post #31 of 62
Some brands have an undeserved negative reputation and it's usually because of something that happened in the past. MSI is kind of like Seagate in this regard.
post #32 of 62
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Over the last 10 years or so, I've purchased more MSI motherboards than any other brand. I know I bought somewhere between 50 and 100 socket A motherboards and I can't remember having a single problem. They get a bad wrap on this forum, but I never understood why and don't agree.
There has been alot of instances of ocn members frying there vrms. MSI AMD boards work perfectly fine. However, I would not buy one if you plan on extreme overclocking.

As others have said the Intel boards seem fine. And I have heard good things about the p67 boards.

Personally, I wouldnt touch any MSI board with a 10-foot pole. Thats just my personal preference. Im strictly an Asus/Gigabyte/and occasional EVGA kind of guy.
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post #33 of 62
As with all brands, the quality and OC ability varies from their low end to high end models. Don't try to OC a low-end board and then blame the manufacturer.

With that said, I find MSI motherboard to be average to good. The parts they use are generally top notch. I don't particularly like their styling, but that's low on the priority list. I have found that the BIOS they use seems clunky and it is a bit more cumbersome to overclock. Gigabyte has better styling IMHO and overall quality components as well. However, they have made some questionable decisions about which chipsets to include for various functions like NICs and audio. Gigabyte BIOS software has been consistently buggy for me. After constructing many systems over the years, I would have to recommend ASUS for overall quality, ease of setup and overclocking, etc. MSI and Gigabyte are tied for second, ASRock third, then the rest
post #34 of 62
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ASUS for overall quality, ease of setup and overclocking, etc. MSI and Gigabyte are tied for second, ASRock third, then the rest
I disagree. Clearly you have not seen Asrock's recent endeavors. Their first generation of P67 boards would already put them ahead of Gigabyte but their latest gen 2 1155 boards puts them leagues ahead of Gigabyte/MSI and they are even threatening to dethrone ASUS.
post #35 of 62
I agree that ASRock's newer high-end stuff is very nice - certainly worth considering. They have really grown as a company and brand - and they are playing with the big boys now.
post #36 of 62
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Nice setup Snakecharmed!

Would you recommend the P67 over the Z68-GD80?? Any Benefits of a video card installed on the Z68, like an HD6870?

Do you think a VenemousX or Thermalright TRUE120 will fit without blocking any of the RAM banks?

Thanks-
Thanks!

If the motherboards are within $10-15 of each other, I would recommend the Z68A-GD80. If there's a significant cost savings by going with P67 over Z68, then P67 would make more sense. Both of the GD80s seem to have the same capabilities in terms of power delivery, whereas the Z68A-GD65 is more robust than the P67A-GD65. If you're looking at a GD80, I would also take a look at the Asus motherboards in that price range as well.

I was looking to go with Z68 all the way because I don't have time to play video games until much later this year, so I'm using the Intel integrated graphics as a stopgap.

Having an HD6870 on a Z68 board just means that you can use Virtu for switching between the Intel graphics and the Radeon, but unless you do video transcoding on the side, the only other benefit you would see is saving energy by letting your HD6870 run at idle except when gaming. When I get a discrete GPU, I'm thinking of disabling the Intel graphics so I can reclaim all of my system RAM.

The Thermalright Venomous X or TRUE 120 should barely clear the RAM slots if you align the cooler to push-pull front to back and you use low-profile fans. I have my Noctua cooler aligned to push-pull bottom to top and one of the clips for the fans overhangs the nearest RAM slot, so I can only remove that stick of RAM if I remove the fan clip first. I would recommend getting RAM with standard profile heatspreaders instead of something tall like the Corsair Dominator.
    
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Comparing the P67 GD65 and the Asus P8P67 Pro which one has better quality components etc, in Singapore they are both the same price so it's hard to choose
    
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I've used MSI boards for around 40 builds all but one on AMD platforms. Never had a DOA and the only failure of the bunch was one that got zapped by a lightning strike. ( k-8 neo 4 i believe-took out the lan and onboard sound but the silly thing will still overclock to the 280's on the fsb) Several Socket A rigs i built about 8 years ago are still going strong.
My current rig has the 790 fx gd -70 with a C-2 965 on it , crossfired 4870X2's (each of which you could use as a hairdryer) and has been the victim of hundreds of overclocking sessions. Still runs like a champ

My experience has been great with MSI motherboards.
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I had RAm clocking issues, with PSC! for gods sake with my GD65, and some minor BIOS problems, other than that it was alright, no major issues.
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Got a P55A-G55 and I've got to say I'm impressed already. My Gigabyte P55M-UD2 always had one or two minor issues even before it finally went down the tubes with freezing and stuttering. This replacement has been pretty darn solid IMO. Been throwing stress tests at it over the last day or so, and has come out cleanly each time. (see my sig-rig)

My only concern is that I don't know if it uses 3-phase, 4-phase, or whatever phase power there is. I do like the LED that lights up to show how many of the phases have been turned on to deliver power to the CPU and under heavy load that light always goes full-on.
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