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Hey guys!

I'd like to have your insight on this subject. My G5 recently broke down, my right click no longer works and it's waaay out of warranty. Logitech offered a 50% discount coupon and I was thinking whether I should buy a new logitech or look a little bit somewhere else. So basically here are my options and their prices. I don't want to go over $80.

(I'm from Europe so prices might be a bit higher than you are used to, but I converted them to USD for you)

Logitech:
G400 - $32
G500 - $50
G9x - $57
G700 - $71


Mionix:

Naos 3200 - $48
Naos 5000 - $74


I think I included all that's in my price range and is a worthy replacement (please don't be offended if I left out your favorite mouse). If you have any other suggestions please share : ). Thanks!
Edited by Aerius66 - 7/26/11 at 1:56pm
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G500, G700 and G9x all use the same Avago 9500 laser sensor. It's not bad, but has a wee bit of positive acceleration, around 5 percent or so. I have the G700, and I don't notice it, even coming from the Deathadder I own, which has no acceleration.

Don't be turned off by the wireless on the G700. I get about a weeks battery, and can't feel any input lag that alot of people say all wireless mice have.

It comes down to shape. The G500 and Deathadder are big mice, ideal for palming about. Some say that the Deathadder is also ideal for a fingertip grip, but I can't seem to get comfortable like I can on my G700 with my fingertips.

I think the G500 is fairly similar in shape to your older G5, but I've never tried a G5, so I can't comment on that.

the G9x is a little short mouse, ideal for claw style grips. I personally don't like the shape, but it seems to have a strong following around here.

The G700 is smaller than the 500 or Deathadder, but still a nice shape to palm, and OK to claw grip for me. Your milage may vary, so I suggest going to your local PC shop and having a fondle if you can.

I hope that helps,
Brodie.
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I tried the G9x at LABI in Japan and it was puny. I even use fingertip. My hand always touched the surface. The G9x is for people who use claw grip or small hands. The acceleration shouldn't bother you. It could be useful if you have a small surface.

For the G700, you can use it with a cable as well. It comes with one for charging or if you don't want to use wireless. I'm not sure what laser the Ikari uses but I know the Xai uses the ADNS-9500 sensor. From the looks of your budget, I'm guessing you're trying to keep under $70. If you didn't mind spending quite some more, I would get the Mionix Naos 5000. It uses the same 9500 sensor but people say it has the best ergonomics.
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post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by brodie337 View Post
G500, G700 and G9x all use the same Avago 9500 laser sensor.
[...]
local PC shop and having a fondle if you can.

I hope that helps,
Brodie.
Thanks very much for the fast reply. I find myself using fingertip grip or something between fingertip and palming. So I think I'd need to consider the G700 or the G500 then, but hopefully today I can have a look at them, if they have it on display...

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I tried the G9x at LABI in Japan and it was puny. I even use fingertip. My hand always touched the surface. The G9x is for people who use claw grip or small hands. The acceleration shouldn't bother you. It could be useful if you have a small surface.

For the G700, you can use it with a cable as well. It comes with one for charging or if you don't want to use wireless. I'm not sure what laser the Ikari uses but I know the Xai uses the ADNS-9500 sensor. From the looks of your budget, I'm guessing you're trying to keep under $70. If you didn't mind spending quite some more, I would get the Mionix Naos 5000. It uses the same 9500 sensor but people say it has the best ergonomics.
I have a SteelSeries QcK Mass, so it's pretty big. But yeah about the G9x, that it what I'm afraid of. It's mainly built for claw grip... This is what I also read around reviews and forums.

That Mionix mouse looks pretty good. Don't know about the brand though. Logitech was very very supportive when my keyboard broke and now my mouse.
Edited by Aerius66 - 7/25/11 at 2:17am
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I switched from a G5 to a MX518 to a Razer Deathadder. The G5 lasted 2 years, MX518 4, and the DA is only a few weeks old.

My experience with Logitech was great and I rank the MX518 dead even with the 1800 dpi Deathadder. The G5 had more issues with the tracking and I wasn't as satisfied with this mouse. Regardless, I was in the same position as you a month back and I'll run you through my experience.

I was a die-hard MX518 fan and I thought I'd never consider another mouse. However after reading tons of comparison threads I realized that polls between the MX518 and the DA were almost always split down the middle.

The MX518 is an amazing mouse. Plain and simple. If JUST as many people loved the Deathadder then that's saying something about the competition.

Well, I didn't want to buy the 3500DPI Deathadder because of the LOD issues so I hunted eBay for an 1800 dpi version. I've been using it for two weeks and it's simply amazing.

I'll break it down by the features:

Accuracy: Most tests find the MX518 fails at lower speeds. I never move my mouse fast enough and both mice were great in accuracy. If you moved your mouse fast enough to skip your G5 the DA will feel much more accurate.

Scroll Wheel: Both of my Logitech scroll wheels failed within two months of buying them. Not a big deal, I don't use it. I've also seen a fair number of scroll wheel issues with the DA so I'd say they're equal on this front.

The scroll wheel for the DA doesn't have the clicky feel of the MX518/G5. The DA's scroll wheel is also relatively larger and flatter.

Ergonomics: Both are great. The Deathadder suits Med/Large hands while the MX518 suits Medium or in between Small/Med hands.

I find DA more comfortable because I fall in the former group. My fingers have more space to fan out and the base of my palm doesn't hit the back of the mouse.

Buttons:
Main buttons - The DA has slightly clickier buttons. Both are fine.

Peripheral buttons - The big drawback for the DA is that you can't change your sensitivity on-the-fly. There's a button on the bottom of the mouse that lets you do this but it isn't accessible. To circumvent this you can bind one of the thumb buttons to change sensitivity.

However, sensitivity changes for the DA aren't instant like the MX518/G5. There's a 1 second lag period.

Lift-off-distance: From lowest distance to highest: DA (New 1.39 firmware)>MX518>G5>Stock DA

Glideability:All three of them have a scratchy feel. If you want to keep it buttery smooth you're going to have to use a cloth pad.

People do report the DA to have more friction but I didn't experience this.

Synopsis: Both mice are great and I wouldn't say either one is better than the other. If you use extremely low-sens and your G5 skipped on you I'd go with the DA. If you have smaller hands and find the Logitech MX518 shape extremely comfortable, stick with Logitech. The Deathadder works best for me because it's the only one of the three mice that doesn't tire my hand.

One thing to note, after switching from Logitech (with prediction) to Razer (With 1.39 drivers without prediction) I had a HARD time aiming for about a week. You're going to experience something similar if you decide to make the switch.

Also, the DA 3500 dpi is fine if you don't lift off your mouse. The new Deathadder is just as reliable as the old one except for it's 1 inch LOD.

Hope it helps buddy! Best of luck in your decision.
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By the way, I know the MX518 that I used in the comparison isn't either a mouse you used or a mouse you're trying to buy.

Keep in mind the only reason why I didn't like the G5 was because it didn't track on my hardwood desk. It was a fine mouse when I use a mousepad.

The G500 is similar enough to the G5/MX518 that I'd recommend it if you're looking for a logitech mouse.
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post #7 of 23
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I switched from a G5 to a MX518 to a Razer Deathadder. The G5 lasted 2 years, MX518 4, and the DA is only a few weeks old.

[...]

Also, the DA 3500 dpi is fine if you don't lift off your mouse. The new Deathadder is just as reliable as the old one except for it's 1 inch LOD.

Hope it helps buddy! Best of luck in your decision.
Well, thank you for the detailed reply. I see now that DeathAdder always comes up as one of the best, but what I'd like to know now is that is it worth it for me to use up my 50% coupon and buy an expensive mouse for a lot cheaper or just go with a DeathAdder (the original mouse I had in mind, before I got my coupon).

Quote:
Originally Posted by hella View Post
By the way, I know the MX518 that I used in the comparison isn't either a mouse you used or a mouse you're trying to buy.

Keep in mind the only reason why I didn't like the G5 was because it didn't track on my hardwood desk. It was a fine mouse when I use a mousepad.

The G500 is similar enough to the G5/MX518 that I'd recommend it if you're looking for a logitech mouse.
Yes, I didn't have any problems with my G5. The G500 looks very promising, but I might want to switch to a different kind of mouse.
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Mm if I was offered the same thing I'd still go with the Deathadder. My reason is because the Logitech shape makes the base of my palm hella sore after a day. I'd still feel it the next few days and I'd have to take a break from gaming.

If this didn't happen I would have bought another logitech mouse with the 50% off coupon.
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If you want a similar feel to the G5, go with the G400. The only difference is it has prediction whereas the G5 does not. I used both models of the G5 since they came out and I could not stand the G500 at all. It's heavy as hell with no weights in it and has positive acceleration.

Here's my G400 review http://www.overclock.net/mice/105423...00-review.html
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If you want a similar feel to the G5, go with the G400. The only difference is it has prediction whereas the G5 does not. I used both models of the G5 since they came out and I could not stand the G500 at all. It's heavy as hell with no weights in it and has positive acceleration.

Here's my G400 review http://www.overclock.net/mice/105423...00-review.html
Thanks for the review!
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