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It works perfectly fine for an HTPC. I use only it for QuickSync when encoding videos. Not sure why a desktop system would care about the iGPU.
Because it called a "system" for a reason. You don't purchase hardware blind of each component.

For you.. u don't care about cost. Nor price. The single most important aspect for you is BAPCo synthetics. You've proven ur point ovr n ovr..

Tell me, what family member needs more than Llano atm..? What office worker..? who isn't this designed for..?

Your points are based on you illogical need to have the best. Not what is most valuable. Thus moot.
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Won't Ivy just tangle the hell out of that "Piledriver" until it can't spin anymore?

See what I did there?



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I hope with this "10 core" Processor AMD can figure out how to make their cores more efficient. Who cares if you have 10 cores, If an intel quad is speedier than what good is the extra 6 cores?
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dat settles it. 6 cores is good enough for now. I won't upgrade till 2012 lol...
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HP/Dell/etc can advertise these as all in one work, gaming and htpc computers for the average user, perfect for a quick game of left for dead after working on the computer. Advertise a "Deluxe" xfire with a low end gpu for true 1080p light gaming/htpc.
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I hope with this "10 core" Processor AMD can figure out how to make their cores more efficient. Who cares if you have 10 cores, If an intel quad is speedier than what good is the extra 6 cores?
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Because it called a "system" for a reason. You don't purchase hardware blind of each component.

For you.. u don't care about cost. Nor price. The single most important aspect for you is BAPCo synthetics. You've proven ur point ovr n ovr..

Tell me, what family member needs more than Llano atm..? What office worker..? who isn't this designed for..?

Your points are based on you illogical need to have the best. Not what is most valuable. Thus moot.
I don't see how they wouldn't be just as good with a SB iGPU. The office worker, family member, etc would get more benefit out of the 95% single threaded apps they use with a higher IPC chip. The iGPU in both work perfectly fine for 1080P movies and light gaming so why not get the one with better single/dual threaded performance?
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I don't see how they wouldn't be just as good with a SB iGPU. The office worker, family member, etc would get more benefit out of the 95% single threaded apps they use with a higher IPC chip.
In every day apps PHII/Core2 IPC is MORE than enough.

Why?

1) The HDD is the bottleneck in most everyday tasks
2) You won't notice the increase in speed even in non-HDD bottlenecked situations.

Really, this is about a choice by the companies.

AMD is betting on things become more visual and GPU heavy in the future. They are also betting on college kids gaming on cheap boxes/laptops. Finally, they are hoping GPU compute picks up for everyday apps like browsers.

Intel is just continuing with what has worked and is forging ahead with single thread IPC and delivering a barely serviceable IGP.

Really, we need to wait a few years to see which company will cash in the mainstream. More powerful single thread monsters or more powerful IGPs.

It is very possible that AMD will make a ton off of average Joe and Intel will remain the favorites of enthusiasts.
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In every day apps PHII/Core2 IPC is MORE than enough.

Why?

1) The HDD is the bottleneck in most everyday tasks
2) You won't notice the increase in speed even in non-HDD bottlenecked situations.

Really, this is about a choice by the companies.

AMD is betting on things become more visual and GPU heavy in the future. They are also betting on college kids gaming on cheap boxes/laptops. Finally, they are hoping GPU compute picks up for everyday apps like browsers.

Intel is just continuing with what has worked and is forging ahead with single thread IPC and delivering a barely serviceable IGP.

Really, we need to wait a few years to see which company will cash in the mainstream. More powerful single thread monsters or a more powerful IGP.

It is very possible that AMD will make a ton off of average Joe and Intel will remain the favorites of enthusiasts.
That's like saying 640K of memory should be enough for anybody. I'm sorry but, just because traditional disc drivers are slow, doesn't mean you should be forced to stick with something slower when the better product is the same price...
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10 Cores sound really nice, very good for lots VMWare machines, shame RAM will be a bottleneck then, but nothing that can't be solved with like 16GB.

Other than that these 10 cores will go nicely with BOINC or Folding. Aqua, MW@Home, SETI or some other programme will love them.

I'll have had this CPU and motherboard for two years in a few months but still don't see a need to upgrade and unless something breaks I'll hopefully be sticking with this for another year at least.
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Or, is it that people buy cpu for past games..?
Look at the leaked specs for next gen consoles; they will all have 2-4 core CPUs as far as we know. Most games are developed for all platforms simultaneously and optimized for all of them, and so as you can see; even in the foreseeable future, only a very few games will develop support for six cores, let alone eight or ten.

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In every day apps PHII/Core2 IPC is MORE than enough.
AMD is betting on things become more visual and GPU heavy in the future. They are also betting on college kids gaming on cheap boxes/laptops. Finally, they are hoping GPU compute picks up for everyday apps like browsers.
Intel is just continuing with what has worked and is forging ahead with single thread IPC and delivering a barely serviceable IGP.
1. Well, as an example, my friend has a Core 2 Duo MBA, and I just got a SB i5 MBA, the difference is astonishing, programs launch faster, OS X and Win 7 boot faster, encoding takes less time, processing is faster (in Word, in Photoshop, in Aperture, and virtually EVERY other program), and the whole computer is snappier. Now, the Core 2 generation has a similar single threaded performance when compared to Phenom IIs, and as you can see a faster processor makes a huge difference, even for the average consumer.

2. AMD's APUs although impressive, will not change much; an Intel SB i3 + a GT 525M is offered at the same price as the A8 Llano, and walks all over it, same with the A6 (which is only slightly cheaper).

3. Also, most people favor a stronger processor to a better GPU. Simply compare the large amount of office workers, businessmen, and multimedia encoders [people who specifically need CPU power] to the limited amount of PC gamers [group where GPU power is more important]. You'll see that for the vast majority of people Intel HD 3000 is more than enough, and that gamers on a budget are essentially the only people directly benefiting from Llano.
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