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Feels good walking in best buy or future shop and seeing most of laptops with an amd sticker
and your point is... ?

that's because they're cheaper, nothing more than that.
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Multi-threaded aside SB i3 is far superior and much better architecture.... Come on now guy
Most things these days use more than two threads.

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Originally Posted by Seronx View Post
Features should be compared not prices

Also, they can do 60fps at that resolution probably more if you can tweak the drivers



Again, Do not look at what is out now to justify your claims

The focus is on GPU performance

CPU performance has little effect on gaming
We're talking about CPUs, not GPUs.

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Seeming as everything is multithreaded.....I don't actually see your point....



Look at this...

i7 2600K $315 alone can't beat a puny A8-3850 At $140 boo hoo

AMD upped the game and after "Bulldozer" if people don't buy AMD they are just well...over there...heck you can probably get the 6670 and boom 60fps this place all within that $315 range still....
I see your point, but we're talking about CPUs.

No real gamer cares about an integrated GPU anyway. And 27fps is far from playable.

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Not everything is multithreaded, no where near, and the i3 is based on a far better architecture and if you even knew how to read properly(don't worry i realize you can't), you'd see my quote was in defense of "pure CPU performance" so that benchmark is COMPLETELY irrelevant as a response to my quote.
Besides the multithreaded part, which I half agree, half disagree with... this.

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If that was all that matter We would still be using single core cpus.
... and this too.
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i7 2600K $315 alone can't beat a puny A8-3850 At $140 .
This is what it has come too? Comparing igps? I guess Amd fans will take whatever they could get since Amd hasnt been competitive since 2005
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This is what it has come too? Comparing igps? I guess Amd fans will take whatever they could get since Amd hasnt been competitive since 2005
Please don't generalize us, Seronx is the only one saying that
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Most things these days use more than two threads.

No real gamer cares about an integrated GPU anyway. And 27fps is far from playable.
How do you define a real gamer?
Most gamers I see on steam uses integrated gpu, most gamers use a console...

Some xbox and ps3 games play at lower fps.


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This is what it has come too? Comparing igps? I guess Amd fans will take whatever they could get since Amd hasnt been competitive since 2005
No.. It has come to overall performance. A gpu matters than ever before.
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This is what it has come too? Comparing igps? I guess Amd fans will take whatever they could get since Amd hasnt been competitive since 2005
I like how one opinion is enough for you to judge an entire group of people.
I hope you don't apply such logic IRL.
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I like how one opinion is enough for you to judge an entire group of people.
I hope you don't apply such logic IRL.
im sure he does ....
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CPU don't bottleneck multi-gpu....people do
If the CPU can't feed data to the GPUs fast enough, the GPUs get bottlenecked.

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OT:I wonder, if they are going for 10 cores on the client side, what is in store for the server side? 20 cores?
Unless the die is massive, almost definitely due to the MCM capable G34.

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CPUs

AMDs are generally the best for all markets

Heck people are comparing the A8-3850 to the i3 21XXs when it should be compared to the i7 2600K

Alone the A8-3850 on the FM1 chipset outperforms the i7 2600K alone on the Z68 chipset

It is a given that AMD stuff is the best
The A8-3850 is only faster in GPU performance, not CPU performance.

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No offense, but um you on that stuff? The only AMD CPUs competitive in their price ranges are the Athlon II X3/X4 and Llano. And Llano isn't much better than the SB i3s in CPU performance. <10%.
The Phenom II x4 965 is competitive, you can save around $50 off a 2500k or so last I checked anyway.

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Multi-threaded aside SB i3 is far superior and much better architecture.... Come on now guy
To be fair, the target market won't see any difference in those chips, unless they play games. And if they play games, Llano is the way to go.

Hell, the target market would be fine on Netburst.

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and your point is... ?

that's because they're cheaper, nothing more than that.
The IGPs are better and the Pentium D exceeded most peoples need for a fast CPU.

Add in the fact OEMs don't pay the prices we do for parts...Price has very little to do with it.

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This is what it has come too? Comparing igps? I guess Amd fans will take whatever they could get since Amd hasnt been competitive since 2005
Most AMD fans know that AMD chips are slower clock for clock, but for their target markets the A8 is a better choice due to the faster IGP, if the person whos using it wants to play Sims, for example, then the Llano chip will provide a better, smoother game play.

And to be fair, in the future when GPUs are used for FP stuff (AMD is trying for this, hence Fusion) then AMD will have a large advantage over Intel.
    
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The IGPs are better and the Pentium D exceeded most peoples need for a fast CPU.

Add in the fact OEMs don't pay the prices we do for parts...Price has very little to do with it.
There's little difference between the mobile IGPs in current laptops - the latest and greatest haven't yet made it to the mass mobile market, especially in Best Buy etc.

And as someone who works for the largest IT manufacturer in the world, I can tell you that your second sentence is false. Price has everything to do with it - if you save $10 going with AMD rather than Intel, you save $10. If an OEM saves $1 going with AMD then they save millions over a year...
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10-core I want now, full HD rendering in Maya takes too long to endure on 4-core.
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