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There's little difference between the mobile IGPs in current laptops - the latest and greatest haven't yet made it to the mass mobile market, especially in Best Buy etc.

And as someone who works for the largest IT manufacturer in the world, I can tell you that your second sentence is false. Price has everything to do with it - if you save $10 going with AMD rather than Intel, you save $10. If an OEM saves $1 going with AMD then they save millions over a year...
I'm just going off what I see locally over here, I see quite a few cheap AMD single core laptops, as well as E-350s.

And as for prices, I'm referring to the fact that it's differing prices, there's package deals, etc that change it, Intel may end up cheaper overall quite easily.
    
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and your point is... ?

that's because they're cheaper, nothing more than that.
AMD has always been Cheaper.
Right now they have the better products for laptops. that is reason
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AMD has always been Cheaper.
Right now they have the better products for laptops. that is reason
Actually, I have a $1000 dollar FX-57 sitting in an old box that disagrees with you.

OT: I'm more curious about this new chipset and the possibility of moving to LGA. It would be nice to not have to worry about dumb backplate modifications to make waterblocks/coolers fit an AM3 type configuration. (Think LGA 1156/1366/1155 compatibility vs having to hunt down the rare "AMD version".)
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CPU don't bottleneck multi-gpu....people do

AMD is better
Tell that to 1090T users that have switched over to Intel due to bottlenecks.

Just ask Balla, a 1090T bottlenecked 470's in SLI.

AMD is better at bottlenecking multi-gpu set ups, I agree with that stance.

Check this out, it's not just Multi-GPU set ups that get an advantage from SB.



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AMD isn't behind they have a shorter test period and a longer production cycle, they aren't behind now, they plan to adopt the nanometers when they need to

"Bulldozer" -> Sandy Bridge (32nm)
"Next-Gen Bulldozer" -> Haswell (22nm)
"Unknown AMD Core name" -> Skylake (14nm)
AMD isn't behind?

If rehashing a 10 year old architecture isn't behind, I don't know what is.

Besides, SB has been out for 7 FULL months now, while BD doesn't even have a solid release date yet.

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No.. It has come to overall performance. A gpu matters than ever before.
In that case, I would go with an Intel CPU + Nvidia for CUDA if I want to fold, or render, that is a much better combo. The poster above me for example ( 2500K + GTX 580 )

Looking at sig rigs of OCN'ers, anyone buying a 2600K has paired it with a dedicated GPU.
Edited by 2010rig - 7/31/11 at 9:27am
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If rehashing a 10 year old architecture isn't behind, I don't know what is.
... I hope you realize BD isn't based on any previous architecture. (unless you were talking about the 1090T etc)
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... I hope you realize BD isn't based on any previous architecture. (unless you were talking about the 1090T etc)
Of course I was talking about Phenom II, the CPU's available on the market today.
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Of course I was talking about Phenom II, the CPU's available on the market today.
Ah, yeah I'm wondering why they didn't release BD on 45nm when it was ready, then the hexa's wouldn't exist. Maybe it would be limited to hexa's then because of the die size ?
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Edited by Obakemono - 7/31/11 at 6:32pm
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Gee, he did not try to get the 1090T to 4.8 GHZ? How did his system run with the Intel CPU at stock clocks? Need more info. Also, what mobo was he running? Oh yeah, that's right!! The SLI hack was prolly causing some type of issue to where it was bottlenecking the 470s, but it's too easy to blame AMD for those issues, right?
Can a 1090T do 4.8 on air like the 2600K can?

Why do you take everything as blaming AMD?

I was merely sharing a factual experience from an OCN user: Ballathefeared
Fact is, a 1090T bottlenecked dual 470's. After switching to a 2500K, the previous bottleneck no longer exists.

You're mixing the 2. The screenshot I showed is from this thread:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1625372

He experienced double the frame rates when switching from a 1090T to a 2600K on his SINGLE 6970.

Those are facts from real world user experiences, and if you look around, they are not alone.

See for yourself what OCN'ers are saying after switching from AMD to Sandy Bridge:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...-converts.html

Am I blaming AMD in any way, shape, or form? NOPE.

Those experiences speak for themselves.
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Yup,you're blaming AMD.
Frame rates only jump so dramatically in CPU bound games.
You won't see any huge difference in games that actually uses the single GPU.

LOL,WoW?
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