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Those people are idiots. There's a lot of idiots in every camp. However, many people, such as myself, have actually owned both (recent) Android phones and iPhones. Android is a fun OS to customize and such. But I found the iPhone to be more simple and user-friendly, and I can get near the same level of customization if I want to with a jailbreak (which is quite easy -- go to jailbreakme.com and tap "install"). My iPhone is jailbroken and I have Adobe Flash (doesn't run well, but most Flash content doesn't on Android either, and I have a ClickToFlash-like software so I don't have my phone at full load draining the battery and making it run slow whenever I go to a webpage with Flash ads), widgets, drop-down settings and notifications (which, BTW, I'm pretty sure Android copied from SBSettings), etc.

Nope. The first Android phone, the HTC G1 codenamed "Dream", was introduced a full month (October 2008) before the first version of SBSettings (November 2008) was outed to the Jailbreaking community. So that means, Android did not copy the drop-down notifications feature because it's in the platform since 1.5 Cupcake.


Specs mean nothing when the operating system has hardware intensiveness issues. In Geekbench, my MacBook Pro gets 3500 in Mac OS X and 2700 in Windows. Some people have run Android on iPhones and saw similar results -- it ran slower and the battery life was much worse. Besides, it's a phone. For almost everyone, the iPhone is smooth enough. I can't tell the difference between my iPhone at the stock 800 MHz or at 1 GHz. (However, the difference between my iPod touch at 600 MHz and 833 MHz is quite noticeable because it's an older, slower device running a new OS.) So while your phone may encode video faster, no one is encoding video on an iPhone. And remember the iPhone is getting a 1 GHz dual core in a couple months. Also, besides from a pure performance standpoint, your battery life must be pretty bad at 1.5 GHz with two cores.

The Motorola Atrix 4G with the Tegra 2 processor has a very good battery life. It can last 2-3 days on a single charge with moderate to heavy usage, according to reviews and personal experience. Other Tegra devices also exhibit good battery life - some even better than single-core counterparts. It's because the phone offloads work to be shared by two processors instead of one doing the same job.


Spec whoring on phones is fail for most people.

Well, that is until we see the hardware being used to full potential. Ice Cream Sandwich will offer full hardware acceleration, which means we could see speed and performance boosts on even legacy hardware.
Hope this should clear things up.
Edited by jjsoviet - 7/25/11 at 1:36pm
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post #52 of 138
I bet most of them is from Verizon. The loss of unlimited data and the fact that Verizon does not want to release any good android phones is a bummer. When Bionic eventually comes out, iPhone 5 (4S?) will probably dominate.
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Poor RIM.. so much potential/
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I love how people continually throw hardware specs into the discussion when trying to compare two Operating systems......

Here's a newsflash: The iPhone 4 came out a year ago. Of course Android-based phones released in the last few months trump it on the hardware side. When a new iPhone comes out, it will be competitive on the hardware front for the time of it's release.

Do you seriously spend $500 every time a new phone is released with a slightly faster processor, that runs the same apps as your old phone? It's ridiculous to think Apple's hardware has to out-spec every new phone that comes out for a year solid....yeesh.
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iOS's graph is unpredictable while android's just increasing.
what happened to blackberry? :O
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I love how people continually throw hardware specs into the discussion when trying to compare two Operating systems......
lol Yeah a phones operating system has been made to take full advantage of the hardware a bit like games consoles. You can't upgrade the hardware (apart from the HDD)
    
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-snip- Also, besides from a pure performance standpoint, your battery life must be pretty bad at 1.5 GHz with two cores. -snip-
I agree with your views on Flash and the concept that companies should drop support of it to encourage moving on to the next innovation.

Regarding my battery life: Nope. Undervolted G2x, 1.5GHz, 26 hours on one charge with pretty heavy use through the whole day (playing Words With Friends, Drag Racing, texting, Youtube) or 30-35 hours if I narrow my use of it to just texting and disable 3G, 4G, Wi-Fi, and dim my screen. Stock battery too. Remember that (just like a desktop if you leave C1E on) overclocked phone CPUs will only run at 1.5GHz if your use demands it. I use PimpMyCPU which underclocks and undervolts when the screen is off or when the phone is in light use. The screen off underclock alone saves a tremendous amount of battery.

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I love how people continually throw hardware specs into the discussion when trying to compare two Operating systems......

Here's a newsflash: The iPhone 4 came out a year ago. Of course Android-based phones released in the last few months trump it on the hardware side. When a new iPhone comes out, it will be competitive on the hardware front for the time of it's release.

Do you seriously spend $500 every time a new phone is released with a slightly faster processor, that runs the same apps as your old phone? It's ridiculous to think Apple's hardware has to out-spec every new phone that comes out for a year solid....yeesh.
Since the iPhone is the ONLY phone with iOS (legitimately), the massive hardware trump IS the thing we point out as iPhone's weakest point against Android. We love that a dozen manufacturers build Android phones (I do). I would only HOPE that the iPhone 5 (releasing what? A year after the first Android dual core?) is dual core with 4G. Our point on that topic is that Apple is far behind from their usual release schedule and by the time the iPhone 5 is out, we'll be getting some quad core phones over on Android. Let's go back. Even well BEFORE these dual core phones hit, the EVO and Droid X were considered as having "quicker, better" hardware, plus their larger screens.

$500? I don't spend that. I just sold my pair of HD2s (my wife's and mine) for $250 each and grabbed a pair of G2xs for $150 each. Why WOULDN'T I upgrade? I've gone through more phones since the G1 came out than most people have gone through in their entire lives. I enjoy it just as I enjoy swapping out computer hardware frequently. The upgrade from a 3GS to a 4 (even less, a 3G to a 3GS) was pretty laughable compared to the jump Android users were able to make from an EVO to an Atrix or G2x, yet another point we're making.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 7/25/11 at 2:21pm
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I love how people continually throw hardware specs into the discussion when trying to compare two Operating systems......

Here's a newsflash: The iPhone 4 came out a year ago. Of course Android-based phones released in the last few months trump it on the hardware side. When a new iPhone comes out, it will be competitive on the hardware front for the time of it's release.

Do you seriously spend $500 every time a new phone is released with a slightly faster processor, that runs the same apps as your old phone? It's ridiculous to think Apple's hardware has to out-spec every new phone that comes out for a year solid....yeesh.
The HTC EVO 4G and Motorola Droid X were released around the same time as the iPhone 4, and yet they outmatched the Apple device pretty handily with beefier processors and larger screens. Not to mention that they still feel snappy despite them running 2.2 Froyo back then.
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As in most of these surveys:

Fail.
Indeed, statistics are pretty much lies with some work behind them.

If you doubled the amount of people asked, the numbers could easily change dramatically.
    
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To any ignorant consumer, they would pretty much go after the so called famous and "best". Well, to the educated consumers, Android offers more, honestly.
Couldn't agree more. Anyone who knows their worth in salt would want an Android phone. Otherwise, those that know their worth, but still want an iPhone could be classified as a fanboy, or an idiot.
    
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