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I have started to OC my rig just a week ago. I have read articles, threads here and outside of this forum that helped me understand the basic aspects
of overclocking. My main target is to OC my q6600 to 3.0ghz from stock of 2.4ghz and I can say i easily achieved it with the bios settings below:

Asus P5Q bios version 1306:

Ai Overclock Tuner [manual]
CPU Ratio Setting [09.0]
FSB Frequency [333]
PCIE Frequency [100]
FSB strap to north bridge [Auto]
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-800MHz]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
1st Info: 6-6-6-18-3-52-6-3
cas# latency 6
dram ras# to cas# delay 6
dram ras# Precharge 6
dram ras# activate to precha 18
everything auto before...


CPU Voltage [1.30000] - (as shown in my vID in CoreTemp)
CPU GLT Reference [AUTO]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
FSB Termination Voltage [auto]
DRAM Voltage [1.80]
NB Voltage [1.20]
SB Voltage [auto]
PCIE SATA Voltage [auto]

Load Line Calibration [Disabled]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
CPU Clock Skew [AUTO]
NB Clock Skew [AUTO]
CPU Margin Enhancement [Optimized]


Advanced bios tab
c1e support - disabled
max cpuid value limit - disabled
intel virtualization tech - disabled
cpu tm function - disabled
execute disable bit - enabled



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My problem is, i have 2 x 1GB of spare RAM, same specs with my 2 x 2GB installed, DDR2-800mhz 6-6-6-18 @ 1.8v. and whenever i try to put those two so that i cud have a total of 6gb ram installed (P5Q has 4 slots for ram, 1st and 3rd slot are Yellow in color while the 2nd and 4th are color Black - my 2 x 2GB ram are installed in the 1st and 3rd yellow slots), i encounter freezes 3-5minutes after opening and playing games like assassin's creed brotherhood, crysis 2, and so on, sometimes sudden crash and restart. I have read that upping the NB voltage and ram voltage to 1.4v and 2.0v respectively cud do the trick, i just want your thoughts about this guys before i do this. my RAMs are rated 1.8v and i'm afraid to up the dram voltage to 2.0v because i have also read that RAM is the easiest component to kill during an OC. I have tried upping my NB voltage to 1.26 but still i encounter random freeze and system crashes.

again, i just want a 3.0ghz OC becos i'm happy with the performance and the temps, nothing more for now, and i also want to use my spare 2 sticks of 1gb ram.
Edited by jothanan - 7/25/11 at 8:12am
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post #2 of 5
you shouldn't mix ram as it's not reccomended, loosen the timings on your ram and the dram mhz aswell then try.
    
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when u say mixing ram, you mean mixing 2GB stick with 1GB stick? I have 2 x 2GB DDR2-800 PC2-6400 (400MHz) currently installed already in lose timings of 6-6-6-18, yeah, I don't have a very great RAM i think. And I have TWO spare sticks of 1GB with the same manufacturer, specs, timings, and recommended voltage, that I was thinking to use. What are the dangers of upping the NB voltage? What software can I use to verify and check my current NB voltage? Aida64 shows my NB core voltage under NB properties is at 1.10V though I entered my NB voltage manually at the BIOS to be at 1.20V. Am i doing something wrong with my OC and current BIOS settings?
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Try some of this. Look at my RAM related suggestions. I made this template for the P5Q PRO Turbo Club.


JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9 (Or the Multi you need for your CPU/Overclock)
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO (Leave this at Auto)
FSB Frequency: 400 (Type in the FSB for your overclock)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800 (Select the mem speed you're attempting. 1:1 works best in these boards when overclocking. Forget about anything else if using 4x2GB Mem.)

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5 (If shooting for CAS 6, you need to up the Performance Level to 11. Or else computer will not boot)
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 (Try 6 if problems using 4x2GB mem)
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 (Try 6 if problems using 4x2GB mem)
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 (Try 18 if problems using 4x2GB mem)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8 (Leave at AUTO)
Write to Read Delay (S): 3 (Leave at AUTO)
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5 (Leave at AUTO)
READ to READ Delay (S): 4 (Try upping this one or two notches if problems using 4x2GB mem)
READ to READ Delay (D): 6 (Try upping this one or two notches if problems using 4x2GB mem)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4 (Leave at AUTO)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 7 (Leave at AUTO)

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled (For best mem overclocking)
DRAM Read Training: Disabled (For best mem overclocking)
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled (For best mem overclocking)
AI Clock Twister: Lighter (For best mem overclocking)
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10] (Leave at 10. Only select 11 if you wanna shoot for CAS 6)
All Pull-Ins Disabled (For best mem overclocking)

CPU Voltage: 1.3250 (Or the Vcore you need for your overclock)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: 0.63x (Comes in handy when Quad core at 450FSB +. Try to tune this while running Prime95 Large FFT's)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54 (1.52 or 1.54 will do)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30 (Raise this if trouble with high FSB speeds on Quads.)
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 (The Voltage you need for your RAM. These boards overvolts RAM by approx 0.08. My findings is that 1.94 - 1.96 has worked well for me in these boards)
NB Voltage: 1.30 (It may help raising this if problems with 4x2GB mem)
SBridge Voltage: 1.10 (Leave)
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50 (Leave)

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Enhancement: Performance
    
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post #5 of 5
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Okay, I'l print this out and check out my BIOS, i think i have many DRAM timing control settings set as auto. Is it okay to change this values for my RAM knowing that I have a RAM that is not very good for overclocking?
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Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3.00GHz ASUS P5Q Radeon HD 5770 1GB 4GB (2x2GB) Kingston DDR2-800 
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500GB Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Samsung SyncMaster 732NW iMaster Pro 600w 
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Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3.00GHz ASUS P5Q Radeon HD 5770 1GB 4GB (2x2GB) Kingston DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
500GB Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Samsung SyncMaster 732NW iMaster Pro 600w 
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