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Not trying to troll or start a flamewar, this is a genuine question. I know no benchmarks are out, but since Sandy Bridge has been out for a bit now, and AMD has seen the benchmarks they know what they have to beat, so wouldn't they aim for Bulldozer to have better performance that what exists right now?
Edited by venomblade - 7/25/11 at 8:48am
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of course they will be aiming to beat the best of the best - but that doesn't for a minute mean they will achieve it, or be able to do so at a reasonable price point. The rumours I've heard about pricing for BD makes it pretty cheap - which makes it hard to believe it will compete at the top end (as if it could beat SB it would be at the very least equal in price to those chips).

But it's all speculation until we see anything concrete.
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I know what the world record is in the 100 meter run. Knowing what benchmarks need to be broken doesn't mean a thing if you don't have the "legs" to do it.

Continual delays with BD raise questions in my mind as to just how well that process is coming along.
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One would hope so but, The best answer anyone can give is we dont know.
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Not trying to troll or start a flamewar, this is a genuine question. I know no benchmarks are out, but since Sandy Bridge has been out for a bit now, and AMD has seen the benchmarks they know what they have to beat, so wouldn't they aim for Bulldozer to have better performance that what exists right now?
They wouldn't be able to do that. Bulldozer has been in development for many many years. By the time Sandy Bridge released the Bulldozer design was mostly finished I'm sure. We are sure hoping it will beat Sandy Bridge so AMD can better compete but we won't know until it's released.
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I know what the world record is in the 100 meter run. Knowing what benchmarks need to be broken doesn't mean a thing if you don't have the "legs" to do it.

Continual delays with BD raise questions in my mind as to just how well that process is coming along.
This is pretty much how I feel. AMD's going to be in a tough spot if they can't compete performance wise, and even for those on a budget, it seems AMD may not be the clear choice anymore. I do hope BD is successful though, just to make the CPU scene more interesting.
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Nothing is guaranteed. We'll have to wait and see, like with any other hardware launch.

Continual delays? Global Foundries couldn't get their gear together in '09. AMD presumably remade the arch for 32nm and so far have had one delay. Q2 to Q3.
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Besides, cpu companies plan their cpu's 5 years ahead, atleast. They can't make a new architechture just because the other one is faster.
    
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I know what the world record is in the 100 meter run. Knowing what benchmarks need to be broken doesn't mean a thing if you don't have the "legs" to do it.

Continual delays with BD raise questions in my mind as to just how well that process is coming along.
Ah I see nice analogy, puts it all into perspective ^^, guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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There just isn't enough information to say.

Also, AMD seems to have a completely different way at going at performance than Intel. Intel tends to go for IPC, while AMD tends to go for cores.

I personally like cores, since I see the future of computing being more and more threaded, but really what it will come down to is personal preference and what you use it for. However, I very much hope that the IPC on Bulldozer is greatly improved over the Phenom II's.

The release is so close, that I wouldn't make a decision until the hard benchmarks come out.
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