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This is pretty much how I feel. AMD's going to be in a tough spot if they can't compete performance wise, and even for those on a budget, it seems AMD may not be the clear choice anymore. I do hope BD is successful though, just to make the CPU scene more interesting.
with SB-based Celerons looking to start below $40 it'll make AMD struggle in the budget ranges for sure.
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Decided I'll take the risk, analogy I like linux more than windows and I found that intel it's more like microsoft so I'll definitelly go for AMD and take the risk getting 955 and after the release of the BD in few months when they get the price a bit down, renew it .

The reason I was thinking about SB was cuz of the IPC and their better performance for games over AMD.

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I personally like cores, since I see the future of computing being more and more threaded, but really what it will come down to is personal preference and what you use it for. However, I very much hope that the IPC on Bulldozer is greatly improved over the Phenom II's.
Where can you use the power of such as much cores as AMD has? (what kind of rig or processes will take advantage of them?)
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There just isn't enough information to say.

Also, AMD seems to have a completely different way at going at performance than Intel. Intel tends to go for IPC, while AMD tends to go for cores.

I personally like cores, since I see the future of computing being more and more threaded, but really what it will come down to is personal preference and what you use it for. However, I very much hope that the IPC on Bulldozer is greatly improved over the Phenom II's.

The release is so close, that I wouldn't make a decision until the hard benchmarks come out.
Yea I noticed that as well and am interested in how they will compare.
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Where can you use the power of such as much cores as AMD has? (what kind of rig or processes will take advantage of them?)
Right now? Battlefield: Bad Company 2



I was pleasantly surprised to see that Left 4 Dead 2 also used all 6 cores. Not anywhere near to the extent of Battlefield, obviously. Higher core count is also very nice for folding!

But really, in my eyes, what's important isn't so much what programs do now, but what they are going to do in the next year or so. Based on the current trends, we are going to start seeing some VERY threaded programs.
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Everything leaked has shown bd will be excellent in apps that can take advantage of all the cores. For general computer work and gaming I believe sb will be faster because of its serious ipc advantage
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Everything leaked has shown bd will be excellent in apps that can take advantage of all the cores. For general computer work and gaming I believe sb will be faster because of its serious ipc advantage
dont say that please I want that BD gives to intel what it deserves!
You will see that BD will have better IPC than i7, they are doing efforts to beat what intely has...
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Everything leaked has shown bd will be excellent in apps that can take advantage of all the cores. For general computer work and gaming I believe sb will be faster because of its serious ipc advantage
If you look forward, IPC is not going to be the sole reason a chip performs well in gaming.

In fact, I predict Bulldozer will perform better in Battlefield 3 than the Sandy Bridge chips.

I say this only because they have twice the core count, Battlefield can take advantage of those cores, and if the cores are any better than Phenom II's (which I'm sure they will be) the extra cores will actually make up for lesser IPC.
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I'm sure that thats what AMD intends to do, but...

Games will recognize them as that? Cores will have the relevance that they deserve?
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I'm sure that thats what AMD intends to do, but...

Games will recognize them as that? Cores will have the relevance that they deserve?
Based on current trends, yes. It is certainly true with the Battlefield series (BFBC2 generates 30+ threads).

But like stated before, solid facts about Bulldozer's performance are still nearly non-existent. Even clock speeds are still cloudy.
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I was under the impression that from what we've seen so far is that the CPU portion of Bulldozer will be taking on the Nehalem based CPUs and not Sandy Bridge, and that the GPU portion will beat Intel by far and away.
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