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Its not guaranteed at all. Look at the Phenom 1 versus the Core 2 Duo. Anyway I think if they can release chips with a high enough clock speed they may compete ok with Sandy Bridge but I doubt they will compete clock for clock. It will also probably depend on the work load as well, since their new architecture is supposed to be really good at certain types of work loads.
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post
Its not guaranteed at all. Look at the Phenom 1 versus the Core 2 Duo. Anyway I think if they can release chips with a high enough clock speed they may compete ok with Sandy Bridge but I doubt they will compete clock for clock. It will also probably depend on the work load as well, since their new architecture is supposed to be really good at certain types of work loads.
And then look at Athlon vs. Netburst... I believe that anything can happen.

Really all we have right now is speculation on a grand scale.
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post #23 of 75
First of all, there are no confirmed details about BD performance. So basically, we don't know.

Second of all, it was noted by staff in The Bulldozer Blog thread that:
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Originally Posted by Note from OCN staff
Due to the increase in Bulldozer related threads, and the lack of any hard evidence regarding the performance of said CPU's thus far, please keep all Bulldozer related comments here in this thread. If there are any Bulldozer threads made outside of this thread, they will be removed. If you happen to see one, please hit the report button.

Thank you.
So I am going to have to close this thread. Take your discussion to the Bulldozer Blog thread - and keep it clean.
Edited by xd_1771 - 7/25/11 at 11:07am
post #24 of 75
I sure hope not.. I dont want to pay top dollar for my next computer.. If its equal to sandy bridge, the consumer wins.. Because prices are gonna tank.
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post #25 of 75
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If you look forward, IPC is not going to be the sole reason a chip performs well in gaming.

In fact, I predict Bulldozer will perform better in Battlefield 3 than the Sandy Bridge chips.

I say this only because they have twice the core count, Battlefield can take advantage of those cores, and if the cores are any better than Phenom II's (which I'm sure they will be) the extra cores will actually make up for lesser IPC.
I could have sworn bittech did a Bad Company 2 test showing that over 3 cores made no difference in game performance. Let me see if i can find it.
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post #26 of 75
Honestly I think it will just be different:

Multi-threaded things: BD will obliterate SB
Single-threaded/games (only 4 cores): SB beat BD.


I think clock for clock, SB will win, but BD will win in multi-threaded things because it has more real cores.
    
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It would be nice for intel to have some competition. The consumer will only benefit!
     
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post #28 of 75
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Honestly I think it will just be different:

Multi-threaded things: BD will obliterate SB
Single-threaded/games (only 4 cores): SB beat BD.


I think clock for clock, SB will win, but BD will win in multi-threaded things because it has more real cores.
This is the exact way i'm thinking as well and have always thought BUT and i put a huge BUT in there. New leak says the 8 core 8150 will be 269.99. There is no way amd would price the top of the line FX processor that cheap if it obliterated a 2600K.
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I could have sworn bittech did a Bad Company 2 test showing that over 3 cores made no difference in game performance. Let me see if i can find it.
I know the article, I started a thread that disproved it.

The reason you didn't see a performance benefit was because A) the processor was not even close to being worked hard and B) the GPU caused a bottleneck.

If you're curious about the discussion and evidence I came up with, go here:
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/10...eadedness.html

EDIT:
Here is the specific post where I posted what evidence I could.
http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/10...l#post14241116

The rest of the thread is trying to get a couple guys to understand that programs don't use CPU time just to use it. The time goes to generating the next frame.
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This is the exact way i'm thinking as well and have always thought BUT and i put a huge BUT in there. New leak says the 8 core 8150 will be 269.99. If it's that low IMO it doesn't beat the 2600K
We'll see, AMD has always had a great price-performance ratio. Unlike Intel: 10% performance gain = an extra $100 dollars to the price.
    
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