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So I just noticed that tune up utilities defragged my ssd when I was alseep. I just got windows set up last night and left the machine on. I know you are not supposed to defrag solid states so I have a good mind to format and start over, wouldn't take that long. It went from shutting down in the blink of an eye to taking as long as a regular hdd
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It's not a big deal, just turn off the auto defrag. It'll speed up again once the GC is done.
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It's not a big deal, just turn off the auto defrag.
I would agree with this, but if it really did increase your shut-down time, it sounds like it messed something up.
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So I just noticed that tune up utilities defragged my ssd when I was alseep. I just got windows set up last night and left the machine on. I know you are not supposed to defrag solid states so I have a good mind to format and start over, wouldn't take that long. It went from shutting down in the blink of an eye to taking as long as a regular hdd
Ouch... the utility moved all the pages to a few NAND chips instead of spreading them out.

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It's not a big deal, just turn off the auto defrag. It'll speed up again once the GC is done.
This may not work. GC generally only clean up dirty blocks. It may not be redistributing pages across NAND chips but it depends on the properitary implementation.


There may not be a short term solution.... maybe taking an image and then apply the image may work? Otherwise, over time the SSD controller will eventually distribute the pages around again.
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One defrag isn't going to hurt anything that I know of. SSDs are more durable than most people realize. You need to write GBs a day in order to see degradation. That said though I would give it a few days to see if the speed comes back, can't hurt.
    
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Unless you are experiencing a performance decrease and still do after a week then perhaps reformat.
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Ouch... the utility moved all the pages to a few NAND chips instead of spreading them out.


This may not work. GC generally only clean up dirty blocks. It may not be redistributing pages across NAND chips but it depends on the properitary implementation.


There may not be a short term solution.... maybe taking an image and then apply the image may work? Otherwise, over time the SSD controller will eventually distribute the pages around again.
The page file is disabled, not sure of that's what you are referring to when you say redistributes pages around...
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The page file is disabled, not sure of that's what you are referring to when you say redistributes pages around...
In lamens terms. The SSD and Nand chips do not structure files like they are done on mechanical drives. So effectively, the defrag program has forced the SSD to restructure its file placement like a mechanical drive, it is not optimal to do so for SSD's as they place files amongst the Nand flash chips differently.
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How would you know if the computer had automatically defragged an SSD?
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In lamens terms. The SSD and Nand chips do not structure files like they are done on mechanical drives. So effectively, the defrag program has forced the SSD to restructure its file placement like a mechanical drive, it is not optimal to do so for SSD's as they place files amongst the Nand flash chips differently.
yes I understand that much at least. I was just asking if he was referring to the page files when he mentioned redistributing pages around the nand
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