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Intel SSDs are regular old SATA not SAS so that arguement isnt valid.

and most of us are thinking from a singer user environment, how do u figure? i have more fault tolerance for my important stuff then most...
I think you haven't been paying attention. Client can't afford $12k enterprise SSD, wants to go with cheaper solution, enterprise 15k rpm drives, hard to find cases with SAS backplate. Wants enterprise grade drive with hot swap capable case, many cases out there only have SATA hot swappable, VR fits the category, end of story.

May you should tell companies like TDK not to release their Industrial grade SSDs with slower than HDDs read & write times because you believe consumer grade SSDs is very good for reliability, and faster.

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The bottom line was your client was either to cheap or couldnt afford an SSD which is fine but that does not make the raptors better in any way shape or form, just cheaper.
You have no idea how much a enterprise SSD costs do you? A Hitachi 400GB Ultrastar SSD costs $12k, more than 4x the cost of your build.

My client could afford 2x 450GB VR he definitely could afford 2x SSDs, he just couldn't afford enterprise SSDs. My client isn't cheap, he wanted something reliable and proven, something which SSDs aren't, just a bunch of single user data here and there. Come back when you can provide enterprise level data of SSDs reliability, not some he said she said bs.

-It's obvious by now our views on reliability are very different. I'm not here to force my views upon you nor should you. Lets just leave it at that.

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Here's an idea WD, move the Velociraptor moniker to a new line of WD SSDs.
That's their strategy after acquiring Hitachi, but will most likely launch some variant of Hitachi's Enterprise level SSDs for consumer use.

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I'm going to jump in on the reliability argument
my experience is not vast with storage devices but this is what I've dealt with


HDD's
-Raptor 37Gb - DOA
-Raptor 37Gb - had for three years, sold computer
-Seagate 320GB 7200rpm - had for two years, sold computer
-1.5TB barracuda - Died after 1.5years: lost everything, no signs of failure
-1TB F3 died after 3 months {PSU ISSUE}
-1Tb F3: still going strong as far as I know over 1.25yrs
-1Tb F3 have had it 5-months: works fine
-2tb F4 have had it 4 months: works fine

SSD's
-30GB OCZ Vertex - died after 6-months {PSU ISSUE}
-30GB OCZ Vertex - still going strong as far as I know, sold it
-30GB OCZ Vertex - still going strong as far as I know, sold it
-Corsair V128 - still going strong as far as I know, sold it
-Microcenter (A-Date) 64Gb sandforce - still going strong as far as I know, sold it


make of it what you will.
I don't trust ANY storage devide right now.

I'm currently running a 1TB F3 internal and I regularly backup to a 2TB F4

SSD's are in my future, but with my SLOW post, I don't see the benefit for daily use as I need 200+GB for Steam games and I don't want an OS only SSD
Frankly, HDDs have become so inexpensive, since my last build I buy only enterprise grade HDDs with 5 year warranties. Consumer grade stuff is cheap for a reason.
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I think you haven't been paying attention. Client can't afford $12k enterprise SSD, wants to go with cheaper solution, enterprise 15k rpm drives, hard to find cases with SAS backplate. Wants enterprise grade drive with hot swap capable case, many cases out there only have SATA hot swappable, VR fits the category, end of story.

May you should tell companies like TDK not to release their Industrial grade SSDs with slower than HDDs read & write times because you believe consumer grade SSDs is very good for reliability, and faster.



You have no idea how much a enterprise SSD costs do you? A Hitachi 400GB Ultrastar SSD costs $12k, more than 4x the cost of your build.

My client could afford 2x 450GB VR he definitely could afford 2x SSDs, he just couldn't afford enterprise SSDs. My client isn't cheap, he wanted something reliable and proven, something which SSDs aren't, just a bunch of single user data here and there. Come back when you can provide enterprise level data of SSDs reliability, not some he said she said bs.

-It's obvious by now our views on reliability are very different. I'm not here to force my views upon you nor should you. Lets just leave it at that.



That's their strategy after acquiring Hitachi, but will most likely launch some variant of Hitachi's Enterprise level SSDs for consumer use.



Frankly, HDDs have become so inexpensive, since my last build I buy only enterprise grade HDDs with 5 year warranties. Consumer grade stuff is cheap for a reason.
umm apparently you dont know how to read because ive been talking about the intel X25-E's WHICH GUESS WHAT IVE OWNED 2 OF THEM AND THEY ARE ENTERPRISE CLASS SSD'S!

also the toms article i linked was various companies experiences with SSD's not individual users including one company that has 5000 Intel Enterprise class SSD's

I have never once been talking about Consumer SSD's including in your other thread, the whole time its been about the X25-E which is an Enterprise SATA drive

edit: and just because you felt the need to bold it, $12k is not 4x the cost of my build.... my build was more than 3k

further they are about to update the X25-E lineup and they still dont cost 12k

Forum link to article: http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...iced-land.html
Article: http://vr-zone.com/articles/exclusiv...ust/13211.html
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