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Pilgrim was a no go - apparently the item to summon the damn thing isnt working -.-
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Pilgrim was a no go - apparently the item to summon the damn thing isnt working -.-

Definitely was last night...
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This game is straight dead

<-- Multiple 50's War Hero geared, etc...

there is nothingi fun to do and 3/4 of the servers are dead and the ones that aren't are carebear zones
where is nigh impossible to find anyone to camp/gank like a boss and have some real world open pvp when their guild
comes to fight you

I cancelled my sub today after being hella patient

you know you got problems when you gotta GIVE away a month of sub and a pet 3 months after launch
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This game is straight dead you know you got problems when you gotta GIVE away a month of sub and a pet 3 months after launch

WoW, Everquest, EQ2 actually gave away a plushy, mine is in the closet ~ Lineage, Aion...

In what world, does giving free time and/or a pet mean desperation or the foreshadowing of problems?

I have 0 issues with people claiming the game is "dead" ~ It's a casual game...But, claiming they're desperate?

Those of you claiming they're desperate need to re-take algebra and just do the math based on their quarterly reports...Desperation? Far from...Good business? Absolutely.
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WoW, Everquest, EQ2 actually gave away a plushy, mine is in the closet ~ Lineage, Aion...
In what world, does giving free time and/or a pet mean desperation or the foreshadowing of problems?
I have 0 issues with people claiming the game is "dead" ~ It's a casual game...But, claiming they're desperate?
Those of you claiming they're desperate need to re-take algebra and just do the math based on their quarterly reports...Desperation? Far from...Good business? Absolutely.

Oh ya, how far into their LIVE launch did they give away their game sub for free with a vanity pet? Giving away a 25% value of your product months into launch does not bode well for them, nor is it "good business" to give things away unless you are struggling to maintain resubs.

Oh yeah businessman, you looked at their quarterly reports? Subs are constant, but CONCURRENT playtime is down... Now this doesn't require algebra to figure out...

1) Give away free playtime = Subs stay constant in time for quarterly earnings
2) Concurrent users down = Nobody actually wants to play the game

= what are the chances of people who don't play the game not wantingi to pay $200 a year in subs once their free time is up?
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Oh ya, how far into their LIVE launch did they give away their game sub for free with a vanity pet? Giving away a 25% value of your product months into launch does not bode well for them, nor is it "good business" to give things away unless you are struggling to maintain resubs.
Oh yeah businessman, you looked at their quarterly reports? Subs are constant, but CONCURRENT playtime is down... Now this doesn't require algebra to figure out...
1) Give away free playtime = Subs stay constant in time for quarterly earnings
2) Concurrent users down = Nobody actually wants to play the game
= what are the chances of people who don't play the game not wantingi to pay $200 a year in subs once their free time is up?

Really? That's all you got?

EQ2, 3 weeks after release...WoW, a month after release...Aion, 3 weeks after release as a bonus, plus the collector's bonus...Lineage...GW2 has a HUGE easteregg (They mentioned this so, don't bite my head off)...

The way of the world, is to attract people by giving away free crap...People LOVE free crap...That doesn't mean they're desperate...They're up to 2m...Since when is 2m active subs desperation?

The issue we have here is that you're obviously confusing rewarding a loyal community with FREE and desperation.

Desperation is going F2P like Aion, Everquest, Planetside, again, I could do this for days, sir.

Rift gave away entire editions not 2-3 weeks after release, gave away 1/4 of their full versions 6 months in...Including everything I mentioned above and more. ~ Is Trion desperate too considering their MASSIVELY PROFITING quarterly?

Playtime has 0 effect on quarterly earnings...Period. ~ In fact, EA only actually sees the end numbers and you're WAY off on how this model works...They've been planning this from the start AND discussed it at the guild summit.

This is a CASUAL MMO...We've been over this ~30 times...You're not going to have the same numbers as a game like Everquest, WoW, Aion; because you're not actually required to raid 7/8/9 hours/night for your reward...SWTOR is a max of 2 hours/raid.

They knew this going into the MMO world and the game is designed more for the casual community than the hardcore...This is WHY the game is more popular than practically every game I've listed thus far.

I just opened my own computer company...I have orders piling into next month but, I'm about to give out a coupon for 10% off...Obviously, I must be desperate considering I've already grossed more in the past few weeks than I did in 3 weeks at Alienware...But, wow, I must be DESPERATE considering my quarterly report, DESPERATE.

Again, your ideas about desperation vs. business savvy are extremely flawed...I suggest an economics class or a few business classes to understand how one should actually promote their business through the end user thumb.gif
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the actual players are playing less everyday because the grind is over for the large % of players, Now just waiting for there raid Nights and logging in for dailies lol

Pretty much what ive been doing, i log on everynight, but if theres no one that needs help then i log out for the night.

I agree witht he Free Month sub making it look liek they are cooking the books - power to them, il gladly take that again each quarter !

But Im sure it was more of a Gift, to us who played hard and enjoyed the game and sa3w past the bugs.



To break the mood - I forgot that Red Reaper was decently difficult place, I thought it would be a breeze for a rakata healer and my COmpanion and 2 lvl 40's lol!

Boy was i wrong = a Few Really dumb whipes, I kept forgetting to recall out my Companion cus there are alot of push button elevators there =(

lesson learned - bring a real tank lol

I could only imagin that place in HM if they ever add it.
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This game is straight dead
<-- Multiple 50's War Hero geared, etc...
there is nothingi fun to do and 3/4 of the servers are dead and the ones that aren't are carebear zones
where is nigh impossible to find anyone to camp/gank like a boss and have some real world open pvp when their guild
comes to fight you
I cancelled my sub today after being hella patient
you know you got problems when you gotta GIVE away a month of sub and a pet 3 months after launch

I wouldn't take them giving something away as saying they Had to...

They don't have to do anything. Giving someone a Free month because they have supported your game since launch as an active player means nothing. lol

but hey good luck to wherever you go. One less whiner to worry about smile.gif

Although I must really laugh at all the HARCORE wannabe PVP'ers in a casual MMO that was designed for PvE with very locked down PvP areas.

Go play an actual PVP game... I hear Tera loves PvP... and GW2...

oh yeah Diablo III.. oh wait...
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if u want PvP go play a real game like Daoc or Warhammer - no game comes close to the PvP
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if u want PvP go play a real game like Daoc or Warhammer - no game comes close to the PvP

DAOC, for it's time -- Wasn't that bad but, the best PVP?

Warhammer the same...But, Warhammer populations left the game because overall, the game was just terrible...Maybe eventually it was decent but, even then, the best pvp?

I'd say the best PvP was vanilla Everquest ~ The entire game was PVP by race...PVP servers had massive populations and the rule-sets there, set the building blocks for games like DAOC and Warhammer -- Which, most of their PVP is based on the core concepts of EQ.

Would I call SWTOR PvP bad or pathetic? No...Because on PVP servers, there is some real PVP going on...It's actually good PVP but, it's user organized...If they fixed Ilum, there wouldn't really be that many complaints but, as it is now, I will agree that it's very limited...Much more limited than it's predecessors.

I still love Huttball, though -- Pulling people into the fire just makes me feel all warm and cozy inside tongue.gif
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