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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by ripster View Post
Go for it. I haven't seen anybody report any ping problems in AGES!
I bought a second Linear R for my wife, and it pinged. The first Filco Linear R i purchased didn't ping. So there is a chance of ping, but I am not sure about the chances of ping with a Ninja. Seem to be lower from what I have seen.

Really like the pads on the bottom of Filco's and they include pads on the legs... they are better than the full Topre I have. Board won't move. That is something you shouldn't take for granted in the long run. Ninja keys are nice IMO.

Buy from Amazon, and you won't have to worry about not liking it. Zero risk, just take it back if you don't like it.
post #32 of 54
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Originally Posted by The Solutor View Post
You are just mixing two opposite philosophies, in every aspect.

IBM/Unicomp = relatively not expensive, unbreakable, waterproof, sold by just a company, bulky, underrated.

Filco= hugely expensive, not reliable, not so durable, can be killed by the first spill of water, cherry MX are sold by a zillion of companies, minimalistic, overrated.
I am with Solutor, I think Filco's are over-priced. That doesn't they aren't good boards. I don't know about the ping issue, if it has been something that has been going on for ages or not. But, it does exist with Filco, and with other companies as well (ie. Mionix pinged as well).

Putting that aside I still think Filco's are over-priced. Filco tenkeyless prices compared to Leopold is a good example. You get PBT with Leopold, and on top of that you pay 20-30 dollars less.

$139

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=fc200rcab $109

You have to pay for shipping I believe with EK, and possibly taxes. So it's not a 30 dollar difference, but should be cheaper with a Leopold. Also, the option to go blank with a Leopold is a good option. I think Das (student discount opton), and EK-Leopold have some of the best deals on non-backlit keyboards.
post #33 of 54
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Putting that aside I still think Filco's are over-priced. Filco tenkeyless prices compared to Leopold is a good example. You get PBT with Leopold, and on top of that you pay 20-30 dollars less.
Since when do Leopold's have PBT keycaps?
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I am with Solutor, I think Filco's are over-priced. That doesn't they aren't good boards. I don't know about the ping issue, if it has been something that has been going on for ages or not. But, it does exist with Filco, and with other companies as well (ie. Mionix pinged as well).

Putting that aside I still think Filco's are over-priced. Filco tenkeyless prices compared to Leopold is a good example. You get PBT with Leopold, and on top of that you pay 20-30 dollars less.

Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Click Action, USA Keyboard FKBN87MC/EB2: Keyboard Co UK $139

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=fc200rcab $109

You have to pay for shipping I believe with EK, and possibly taxes. So it's not a 30 dollar difference, but should be cheaper with a Leopold. Also, the option to go blank with a Leopold is a good option. I think Das (student discount opton), and EK-Leopold have some of the best deals on non-backlit keyboards.
The Das Keyboard student/faculty price makes it an awesome board if you want a full size, no doubt. And free shipping as well.
post #35 of 54
Leopolds have always been ABS.

Even $250-$400 RealForces and HHKBs have ABS spacebars.

After 10 mins of boiling.


But you DO get 18KRO over USB on a Leopold if you suddenly sprout lots of fingers on your non-mousing hand.
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post #36 of 54
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I am with Solutor, I think Filco's are over-priced. That doesn't they aren't good boards. I don't know about the ping issue, if it has been something that has been going on for ages or not. But, it does exist with Filco, and with other companies as well (ie. Mionix pinged as well).

Putting that aside I still think Filco's are over-priced. Filco tenkeyless prices compared to Leopold is a good example. You get PBT with Leopold, and on top of that you pay 20-30 dollars less.

Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Click Action, USA Keyboard FKBN87MC/EB2: Keyboard Co UK $139

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=fc200rcab $109

You have to pay for shipping I believe with EK, and possibly taxes. So it's not a 30 dollar difference, but should be cheaper with a Leopold. Also, the option to go blank with a Leopold is a good option. I think Das (student discount opton), and EK-Leopold have some of the best deals on non-backlit keyboards.
Yea I get screwed in cali if i want to get a leopold from Ek.. the difference is only 10 bucks between the leopold and filco non-ninja. So there my decision is little bit easier in that i would pay the little bit extra for the filco.

But hopefully I do want to try a Leopold to have a first had comparison against a filco before I make any comments on the wholes filco vs leopold debate.
post #37 of 54
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Man, you guys all make good points....... dang it.... lol.... I like the idea of a real force board at some point and maybe a Model M, but unfortunately Model M boards can be expensive as well. Typically I am the guy looking for the practical and logical purchase. Some brands are simply overpriced like Sony TV's (used to be more so) and then people like Samsung came along and had a equivalent or better product for less money even though some people for the longest time did not thing they were on par or better than Sony.

So.... yeah... that is where I am at......

And at the moment I also have another good question.... are there any good places to buy key caps from in cases like Leopold, Filco, etc.?

Thanks in advance.
post #38 of 54
Which keycaps would you like to replace?
post #39 of 54
The $30 you save from a Leopold at EK, after you take into account shipping charges, will likely end up being a smaller savings. At that price diff however, your better off really looking at the two to see which you prefer looks wise, since quality will be on par. To me, the rounded edges on the Leopold don't give it as nice of a look. Just something to consider before you jump on either of them.

As far as keycaps, the geekhack forums have a few group buys for them. Also http://www.tankguys.com/ and http://www.keyboardco.com/ carry some sets.
post #40 of 54
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I also went with a Filco M2 Ninja TKL w/ browns
Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard: Electronics

I had the noppoo choc mini w/ browns and loved it, but when I randomly just ordered the filco cause they were instock, I put the noppoo away in the closet. Totally different quality feel to it.

PBT keys would be nice, but I actually really like the side printed key lettering. I know for a fact, im not good enough of a typist to run blank keycaps 24/7 since most of the stuff i do is random hotkey'ing in games and typing in awkward passwords for work. Its kinda a decent cross between the two for me.

I think unfilled PBT keys would have been cool as well.
That's exactly the same keyboard I've been looking for a long time. I'm going to buy it soon! My first mechanical keyboard. <3

E: Oops, not quite the same. I've been looking for the Ninja edition...
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