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But with 2 6950s, don't you need more wattage? Also, what about 2 6970s?
6970s aren't that much faster than 6950s. Not really worth it for the extra cost if your total budget is $1600.

A single 6990 has the same # of processing units as two 6970s, but it is clocked slower due to power/heat constraints. So the end result is that one 6990 performs like two 6950s in Crossfire, but costs a lot more.

FYI, a single HD 6990 actually draws more power than crossfired HD 6950s:


Edited by 996gt2 - 7/25/11 at 11:47pm
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Do you have a monitor?

I have a killer setup in mind unless you don't have a monitor.
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So from what I understand, the 2600k = 2500k with speed, they just slapped on the words i7 on it. But does a 580 or 590 pack more of a punch than the 570? I want to get something where I don't have to upgrade in a LOOOONG time and can run games in the future with no lag, like BF3 and skyrim.
no, a 2600k has hyperthreading which means it has two "threads" for each physical core. useful for video encoding and such, not useful for gaming.

and yes, a 580 and 590 pack more "punch" than a 570. The problem is at 1080 you're not going to see it because they're all completely sufficient for that resolution.

If you buy an enthusiast card [580, 590] you're paying A LOT for a bit more performance. a 580 performs maybe 10-15% better but costs 200 more.

buying the best card available doesn't mean your rig will last longer. It means you'll have the cream of the crop RIGHT NOW. In 2 years time there will be cards that perform just as well and cost a hell of a lot less. It's just how the industry works.

Honestly though, if you want to you'll easily be able to make this build last a long time. It's all up to your personal tastes and what you consider tolerable for graphics settings. In 3 years will you be able to max out everything possible and get 60+fps on every game released? probably not. It's a matter of whether or not you can suck it up and turn down a couple of settings that probably won't make a visual difference anyways.

edit: and most of the leaked alpha footage of BF3 is telling us that the game will run in its current state maxed out around 50fps on a 560ti. After optimization and whatnot you can expect that to improve as well. a 570 should be totally fine.

as for skyrim, it's going to be a "mostly dx9" game according to bethesda. I doubt it will be as hard to run as some people think.
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post #24 of 59
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Do you have a monitor?

I have a killer setup in mind unless you don't have a monitor.
No monitor, sorry. xD
post #25 of 59
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So from what I understand, the 2600k = 2500k with speed, they just slapped on the words i7 on it. But does a 580 or 590 pack more of a punch than the 570? I want to get something where I don't have to upgrade in a LOOOONG time and can run games in the future with no lag, like BF3 and skyrim.
Your desire about protecting yourself in the future from lag is a good idea. Although it's not always plausible to expect a clear 100% protection plan. Technologies change fast. Whether it's GPU/ Video cards or the games themselves. You've been given great advice on the basis of what you desire and the given technologies at hand today in my opinion. Part of future proofing ones build is the expectation that you can buy a motherboard that can upgrade for future technologies.
In my opinion the intel 2500k and a good motherboard coupled with the GTX 580 is a great start. Besides the more you learn, you'll learn that swapping in a new video card ( at a later date ) is a breeze it's so simple and easy.
Learning about how the individual components interact with each other in the pc is a great way for this type of protection you seek too, will help you in decision makings.
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Your desire about protecting yourself in the future from lag is a good idea. Although it's not always plausible to expect a clear 100% protection plan. Technologies change fast. Whether it's GPU/ Video cards or the games themselves. You've been given great advice on the basis of what you desire and the given technologies at hand today in my opinion. Part of future proofing ones build is the expectation that you can buy a motherboard that can upgrade for future technologies.
In my opinion the intel 2500k and a good motherboard coupled with the GTX 580 is a great start. Besides the more you learn, you'll learn that swapping in a new video card ( at a later date ) is a breeze it's so simple and easy.
Learning about how the individual components interact with each other in the pc is a great way for this type of protection you seek too, will help you in decision makings.
calling a 580 future proof? wat....
    
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calling a 580 future proof? wat....
Sorry bro, whatcha asking?
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Just to err on the side of caution.

It seems like OP has very little knowledge of hardware. OP, have you built a computer before? If not, you should probably do your research. It's not hard to build a computer, but it is easy to make mistakes if you don't know what you're doing. I mean, it's one thing to ask other people to recommend the exact parts you will need. But what's your plan once the parts arrive at your door? Even once you get the initial building done, if you want to get a stable overclock going, that's yet more research that you'll have to do if you're new to it.

I would suggest doing some reading and getting yourself acquainted with the current hardware, at the very least.
Edited by 996gt2 - 7/26/11 at 12:07am
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I was wondering, can you compile a build of everything I need and the best performance possible under $1600 through newegg please?
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I was wondering, can you compile a build of everything I need and the best performance possible under $1600 through newegg please?
Monitor, case, SSD, everything. $1600.89.


Edited by Heat - 7/26/11 at 12:19am
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