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Originally Posted by linkin93;14350828 
Intel Pentium 4 HT 660: 584
AMD Athlon II X4 645: 962


And the older ones still beat the P4. What is this verbal diarrhoea they are spouting?

It's toms hardware,what do you expect? There isn't much point in testing single core performance when most applications work with 2 or more.
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Once again, Intel delivers better performance per clock from its most modern products. Like we said, though, putting a six-core AMD chip against a quad- or dual-core Intel processor at the same price point will drastically change the performance picture. Our exploration here is experimental by nature; we want to test per-clock performance of just one core.


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Originally Posted by Derp;14350863 
You're reading it wrong.... that comment refers to this:

3dmark_score.png

After the last few comments I can see that this thread will soon be filled with lots of butt hurt.
lachen.gif Synthetic Intel optimized benchmarks.
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/26/11 at 6:44am
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post #12 of 223
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Originally Posted by linkin93;14350828 
Intel Pentium 4 HT 660: 584
AMD Athlon II X4 645: 962


And the older ones still beat the P4. What is this verbal diarrhoea they are spouting?

You're reading it wrong.... that comment refers to this:

3dmark_score.png

After the last few comments I can see that this thread will soon be filled with lots of butt hurt.
Edited by Derp - 7/26/11 at 5:32am
post #13 of 223
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Originally Posted by Sushimaster;14350814 
Amazing how a 200$ cpu like the 2500k beat the 980x in most benchmark, atleast for single core and clock by clock.

Thing is, you don't buy a 980X to run it single core.

Also we all know that all AMD has done with Phenom II is refined and added cores, not news to anyone. What they need is a new architecture.
Edited by Willhemmens - 7/26/11 at 5:34am
post #14 of 223
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Originally Posted by JasonCz;14350838 
Very interesting article. +rep!





You're confused. That quote references the graph above it, not below it. The P4 is 1525, which is faster than all but one of the AMD chips.

Ah, my mistake.
post #15 of 223
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Originally Posted by Alatar;14350847 
not at all since the 980X has a 3 year old architecture

But where's the 3 year old price? biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by sccr64472;14350875 
But where's the 3 year old price? biggrin.gif

Intel doesn't discount their old stuff, they just replace them with new products. The 990X will be replaced by the i7 3960X late this year.
 
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Good read. They should have also calculated the price for each somehow. Bang for buck incorporated.

It does show the current days architecture of Intel is very good.
 
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post #18 of 223
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Originally Posted by Alatar;14350847 
not at all since the 980X has a 3 year old architecture

And is an extreme edition chip.

Any Gulftown would have performed identically to the 980X in this test.
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Originally Posted by Hukkel;14350900 
Good read. They should have also calculated the price for each somehow. Bang for buck incorporated.

The article has nothing to do with bang for the buck because the vast majority of these CPUs are neither limited to one core, nor the clock speeds tested. They also span several generations, and have highly variable street prices.
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG;14350859 
lachen.gif Synthetic Intel optimized benchmarks.

How are 7-Zip, Winrar, Winzip, 3DS Max, Adobe After Effects, Photoshop, Premier Pro, Blender, Abbyy Finereader, Adobe Acrobat, iTunes, Lame, Handbrake and MainConcept synthetic benchmarks?

These applications were all tested in addition to the the synthetics, and newer Intel chips walked all over their AMD counterparts.
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It seems to me that they are preoccupied with AES encryption - which is not used in any real world tasks that most people would use. Of course, the problem is that Intel benches better because of AES, but what happens next year (or whenever) when AES entirely fails, and they move on to something else?

The benchmark does not consider price, and around here, Intel products are at least double the price of AMD, perhaps even triple. One can get a pretty good AMD processor for $200, while $600 is some mediocre Intel offering. Of course, AMD gets undercut with the new Celeron offerings - which might be cool if you want inadequate performance, just like the Atom offers inferior performance to AMDs low power offerings.

Some of the benchmark is bogus - like the OCR tests, like, ooooh, ahhhh, I need an overpriced Intel because it can OCR a document like one second faster - while the secretary that is doing the job will invest that time savings into coming in late, leaving early, and avoiding work of all kinds.

I don't know if they quashed all of the problems out of the benchmark, like are all systems tested using the exact same Windows setup, exact same drivers, exact same BIOS settings, and so on?

However, it does show that AMD needs to really come to terms with performance per clock cycle performance, where Intel appears to be better off, because if they do not, their newest Bulldozer will look pale in comparison to the aging i7 "flagship", especially since Intel may still pull the i9 and i11 out of the hat with the next big thing...
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