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All in all, it's about as I expected.

This also goes to show that when AMD was leading Intel, it was by slightly more than by what Intel is leading AMD, despite Intel being roughly two generations ahead.
Pretty sure Conroe and windsor competed with each other, which was when Intel blew AMD out of the water.

Windsor didn't compete with Prescott.

Prescott was in the test I think as a joke to show how far Intel has come since the Pent 4 era.
    
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Pretty sure Conroe and windsor competed with each other, which was when Intel blew AMD out of the water.

Windsor didn't compete with Prescott.
Windsor (and the other Athlon X2s) did compete with the dual-core versions of Prescott (Smithfield and later Presler). But then Intel released Core 2 and the performance landscape totally changed.

Conroe came out a year before Phenom I, so all AMD had to compete with Conroe were Athlon 64 X2s. Not that the release of Phenom really changed anything in AMD's favor.
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Pretty sure Conroe and windsor competed with each other, which was when Intel blew AMD out of the water.

Windsor didn't compete with Prescott.

Prescott was in the test I think as a joke to show how far Intel has come since the Pent 4 era.
That's true, it did, but something competes against something simply by being in the market against it, no? That's how it goes. One can't say "no fair, you can't compare this against that" if they are in the market competing against one another. That's why saying "you can't hold it against Phenom II for not competing with Sandy Bridge" isn't fully true. True, you can't expect it too, and few people are outright blaming it for not doing so, but at the same time, the nasty reality is, it has to hold in there until Bulldozer can reinforce AMD, and since it can't contend with Sandy Bridge right now (on the performance front, price aside here), that means Intel has the advantage and it's what many people are choosing it over the Phenom II. That's how the market works. As a result, AMD has had to fight with price and has had less flexibility/choice in the matter.

Anyway, the Phenom II essentially competed half against the later Core 2 (Wolfdales) and half against early Neghalem (LGA 1366), if I remember right, and it bested neither. When you look at it that way, Intel has released Nehalem and now Sandy Bridge since then, and AMD is still essentially around the Core 2 performance per core-wise, so that's what I mean when I said "about two generations ahead".
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Pretty sure Conroe and windsor competed with each other, which was when Intel blew AMD out of the water.

Windsor didn't compete with Prescott.

Prescott was in the test I think as a joke to show how far Intel has come since the Pent 4 era.

Windsor came out before Conroe and competed with the P4 until Intel released the Core 2, then they clocked the Windsor core to 3Ghz and released the 6000+. (Why they used the 90nm die instead of the 65nm die, I'll never know.)
    
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By the way, the original post got my hopes up. I saw "last decade" and expected some Pentium IIIs and Athlon XPs in there, but this is only about the past half a decade. I saw they were using 3GHz and knew it was only yesterdays and modern CPUs (because no way is a Pentium III running at 3GHz). It would have been neat to see them all at 1GHz and with the Pentium III and such in there. The Pentium III would even best the Pentium 4, as it's faster clock for clock on average (depending on the testing though).
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I like this thread....

It went off topic a lot later than expected
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(Why they used the 90nm die instead of the 65nm die, I'll never know.)
Because Windsor clocked just as well or better than the first revision of Brisbane and had double the L2 cache.
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how the heck did windsor beat regor in ANY of those tests... It just doesn't make sense. That's like conroe beating wolfdale...

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Because Windsor clocked just as well or better than the first revision of Brisbane and had double the L2 cache.
The cache latencies were lower as well.
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Still waiting for the AMD cheerleaders proof that Intel is a Evil corporation.

Come on where are your videos of Intel stealing candy from a baby? And knocking over local gas stations to buy crack?
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Still waiting for the AMD cheerleaders proof that Intel is a Evil corporation.

Come on where are your videos of Intel stealing candy from a baby? And knocking over local gas stations to buy crack?
I already posted a link to AMD's former CEO being involved in a hedge fund scandal. None of the AMD fanboys have yet responded, lol.
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