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Gross. First, they need to learn how to make a mobile browser. I use FF4 on my desktop but tried it on my droid x and it blew big time. God damn it was bad.
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Well done to most of you for reading the actual article!

Wait, who am I kidding...
    
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It'll require 3GB of RAM to boot to desktop. Running an application? Lets just not talk about that.
Add 100GB as memory leak as well.
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And around 60 other companies, past and present. Do you happen to own a large corporate entity by any chance? No consumer could possibly wish a duopoly on the world.
there are many ___poly in the computing world.
CPUs and Chipsets are mainly dominated by Intel and AMD (Via has like <0.1% marketshare?)
discrete GPUs are mainly dominated by Nvidia and AMD.
integrated GPUs are dominated by Intel.
GPUs in general counting both discrete and integrated is still dominated by Intel.
Mp3 playersand Smart phones are dominated by Apple.
Operating Systems are dominated by Microsoft.

and let's face it, marketshare for the whole world, Browser is dominated by Microsoft's Internet Explorer. you HAVE to use IE in order to download different browsers. ok maybe u don't have to, but it is the easiest way.

are those 60 companies still in business? how much marketshare do they have?
maybe you think i'm close-minded. but do Mozilla REALLY think they stand a chance against Windows, Mac OS and Linux? (all of which combined take up >99.9% of the market)

and another serious question: are you going to install Mozilla's OS instead of Windows on your gaming computer?

My point is that companies should stick to what they do best. Mozilla is good at making nice browser so they should stick to that. Microsoft should stick to OS. (look at their attempt to poke into google's search engine business, and see how far bing has come; or when intel try to poke their nose into GPU business and see what happened to Larabee)

Unless Mozilla can prove to me otherwise, their attempt is going to fail.
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there are many ___poly in the computing world.
CPUs and Chipsets are mainly dominated by Intel and AMD (Via has like <0.1% marketshare?)
discrete GPUs are mainly dominated by Nvidia and AMD.
integrated GPUs are dominated by Intel.
GPUs in general counting both discrete and integrated is still dominated by Intel.
Mp3 playersand Smart phones are dominated by Apple.
Operating Systems are dominated by Microsoft.

and let's face it, marketshare for the whole world, Browser is dominated by Microsoft's Internet Explorer. you HAVE to use IE in order to download different browsers. ok maybe u don't have to, but it is the easiest way.

are those 60 companies still in business? how much marketshare do they have?
maybe you think i'm close-minded. but do Mozilla REALLY think they stand a chance against Windows, Mac OS and Linux? (all of which combined take up >99.9% of the market)

and another serious question: are you going to install Mozilla's OS instead of Windows on your gaming computer?

My point is that companies should stick to what they do best. Mozilla is good at making nice browser so they should stick to that. Microsoft should stick to OS. (look at their attempt to poke into google's search engine business, and see how far bing has come; or when intel try to poke their nose into GPU business and see what happened to Larabee)

Unless Mozilla can prove to me otherwise, their attempt is going to fail.
wat

The consumer Gpu world is indeed AMD and Nvidea, and consumer cpu AMD/Intel

But I wouldn't say Apple dominates the Music/Phone market, thats one of the places where there is lots and lots of successfull variety.

If you are using windows, yes you have to use IE to download another browser, however that doesn't count as a monopoly, because browser share = browsers people use to browse the web, not browser installed on pc. so using IE to onetime download Chrome/FF, isn't going to give MS 100% browser share. + EU versions of windows come with a choice of browser due to anti-trust.

This OS isn't for gaming, I don't exactly see a use for it with Linux around, however I see no reason not to support it, maybe it will come up with some cool ideas which will be copiedi/ntergrated into windows/mac/linux/chrome

When companies try to innovate in a different direction, the competition gets worried, makes better products/drops prices. Which is what we want. Why stiffle innovation?
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ugh i hate it when these random companies try to put their nose into other people's businesses.
OS is for Microsoft and Apple.
Mozilla have been making top notch software for a long time, I don't think it's up to the end-user whether they decide to make an OS or not.

Give it a chance, it could be the next Linux.
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64 - 24 = 42 not 40

14 yr old Chrome OS users will be PISSED!!!
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^rofl maybe using your calculator instead of your brain will give more accurate arithmetic next time (no offense)
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[deleted: meh]


Everything is a Chrome wanna be these days. Look at IE 8->9 and FF 3->4.


[delted:meh]
FF had most of chrome's features already. Even had the removal of the menu drops so all you had was a single menu "button" and tabs. That was through a plugin, though FF has had a lot of those plugins for ages. So did chrome steal FF plugin ideas? =?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ompact-menu-2/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...don/tiny-menu/

tiny menu was probably one of the older ideas, I'm sure it's been around for a WHILE. So then who created the layout first? I also think FF had all of Chrome's functions in some addon/plugin of some form. However they were never officially the look of Firefox, the idea was still there. I don't really care to prove FF came out with these first, for all I know tiny-menu and compact-menu were created after Chrome came out. That could be true, ok it's not. I just checked tiny-menu dates, goes back to 2005, 3 years before the Chrome release. So we have a winner, crap. Eh, so I guess Chrome stole the idea from some dude who created the FF plugin, who probably stole it from some other dude.

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I'm making a joke based on the resource intensity of Firefox.
? That used to be true but even the nightly versions have picked up. I will admit FF4 before it was "released" was junk, freaking POS mem hog. Now it's pretty good.
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FF had most of chrome's features already. Even had the removal of the menu drops so all you had was a single menu "button" and tabs. That was through a plugin, though FF has had a lot of those plugins for ages. So did chrome steal FF plugin ideas? =?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ompact-menu-2/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...don/tiny-menu/

tiny menu was probably one of the older ideas, I'm sure it's been around for a WHILE. So then who created the layout first? I also think FF had all of Chrome's functions in some addon/plugin of some form. However they were never officially the look of Firefox, the idea was still there. I don't really care to prove FF came out with these first, for all I know tiny-menu and compact-menu were created after Chrome came out. That could be true, ok it's not. I just checked tiny-menu dates, goes back to 2005, 3 years before the Chrome release. So we have a winner, crap. Eh, so I guess Chrome stole the idea from some dude who created the FF plugin, who probably stole it from some other dude.



? That used to be true but even the nightly versions have picked up. I will admit FF4 before it was "released" was junk, freaking POS mem hog. Now it's pretty good.
Good god. I can't tell if you're a troll or a fanboy. Sure, chrome has taken ideas from other places, but most new ideas seem to be coming from Chrome. Calm down.
    
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