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I can see it now... we end time on ourselves, and become a time traveling race of superbeings, and our egos swell. We consier ourselves masters of the known universe, and begin exploring other worlds by making time stop around ourselves and traveling instantaneously. Then we find another race that has been doing it for a long time, and they say something like "Took you long enough."
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What about Deja Vu? I've experienced events that haven't occured and yet I have a memory of them.
I've had some WICKED deja vu this year.
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Isn't time something we conceived? Or is there actual time within the universe?
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It is said that time is what keeps everything from happening at once. The fact that even recreated actions are not the original event distinguishes moments of time from one and other. Time is linear. It depends on whether points in time can be folded onto one and other like points in space as to whether time can be traveled as far as my understanding of it goes.
Is it possible that only our perception of time is linear? My perception of time certainly is linear, but this does not prove that it is true. I am only observing from a very limited vantage point and perspective, the reality could be much different than what I percieve. Simply stating that "Time is Linear" does not make it so.
    
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The time plane didn't end...it diverged the electromagnetic field they were monitoring. If "time" did the samething, then would that mean two new planes of esistance would be made? Rather creepy thought. Instead of parrel dimensions...we will have perpendicular dimensions that would be mirror opposite images.

Heh...I really hope I get to live to see something done with this sort of stuff in my life time. I've said before that I know time travel will not exist in my life time because there is too much stupid stuff out there that I would go back in time and errase from existance. However, I am really hoping to see some sort of advancement come out of this stuff and just not more "ohhh that's kind of cool" observations.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 7/26/11 at 10:13am
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The speed of light = 299,792,458 m/s

Your 2nd question would pertain to the theory of relativity and its not as simple as just quoting what Einstein said.
Thank you for explaining what "the speed of light " is generally accepted as being. This definition however raises more questions: What is a "Meter", and what is a "Second", and thirdly are there specific conditions wherein this measurement must take place, or is it the same everywhere?
    
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I am curious about the posts regarding the nature of time passage and it's relation to the "speed of light". Can someone here please explain to me what is the "speed of light" and what exactly it's relation to time is?
Very very complicated.... lol. The speed of light is constant in a vaccuum, and as Einstein sought to point out, it is constant regardless of reference frame. And that's some stuff you just have to wiki, I can't possibly sit here and type that all out. google "time-dilation"

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Still though, you are mistaking 'now' with 'now right here'. If light bounces off an apple, and flies off into space, that light won't percieve any length of time, but the wavelength of that light will remain fixed to what it was when it left the apple's surface. So that years later, for the apple, and lightyears later for the light, as it will be happily floating along percieving 'no time' only distance, will still have the same wavelength as was caused by the apple as it was. So that at its destination, where some other being percieves that light, it will see the shiny red apple. The apple though, will have aged and rotted away. Once the apple and the light part physically, they have no way to interact with each other. The rotting apple can no longer affect the wavelength of the light that has already left.

Wavelengths do change.

Look at an apple under water at an angle (Refraction).
Watch an apple as it is thrown (Doppler Effect).
And yes, I was over-simplifying, with the assumtion that in that case the light would leave the apple's surface and not touch, or be acted upon by any other force. Which is not very likely at all in the real universe ("the real world" suddenly felt like an inapropriate phrase )
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The time plane didn't end...it diverged the electromagnetic field they were monitoring. If "time" did the samething, then would that mean two new planes of esistance would be made? Rather creepy thought. Instead of parrel dimensions...we will have perpendicular dimensions that would be mirror opposite images.

Heh...I really hope I get to live to see something done with this sort of stuff in my life time. I've said before that I know time travel will not exist in my life time because there is too much stupid stuff out there that I would go back in time and errase from existance. However, I am really hoping to see some sort of advancement come out of this stuff and just not more "ohhh that's kind of cool" observations.
Imagine if we "created" a universe where events had kept humanity in the stone age. I'd think that companies would really love to strip mine the crap out of that planet.
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Hold on... if experiences and sensations are not reproducable, then what are drawings, movies, and other forms of expression? I can easily describe what happens in front of me during any given time, assuming all my wits are about me.
Aren't those produced, defined, and proven constantly?

Are you saying that the existence of the experience itself can't be proven tangibly or the experience can't be replicated?
They are not perfectly reproduced, merely approximated. You can draw any number of interpretations out of a single piece of text or piece of music or film. Art is an artist attempting to create a work that recreates or enhances the emotions they feel in themselves or others. But no artist is truly satisfied with his work; trust me on that. Then we view that art through the lens of our own perceptions and experiences.

That is why no two people have the exact same reaction to a given piece of artwork.


Actually I reread it and realized you weren't talking about art in particular. Sorry. However, I'll leave it there.


Film is reproducing lightwaves and sound. Recording music is reproducing music. None of it exactly duplicates experience. For a simple example, a blind man will not experience a film in the same way as a sighted man.
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Thank you for explaining what "the speed of light " is generally accepted as being. This definition however raises more questions: What is a "Meter", and what is a "Second", and thirdly are there specific conditions wherein this measurement must take place, or is it the same everywhere?
A meter and a second, etc, are all derived indirectly from the weight of The Kilogram, in France, which is defined as the unit of mass, from which all others are copied and derived.

The speed of light is derived from general relativity. A meter is defined as the distance light travels in some fraction of a second, and a second is derived from quantum energy equations.
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