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Well I'm trying to build a good gaming rig and can play almost all games on max settings with no lag or any problems. Mostly BF3 and all future games.

You guys think this is good?

This is what I've learned so far:
i5 over i7 - Same performance on games, hyperthreading is a waste
nVidia vs ATI - nVidia runs games better and have features like Physx/CUDA

Now some people suggested me to get an AMD instead of Intel because it is cheaper and maybe even better?

Also should I add in a dedicated sound card? I have an Astro A40 + Mixamp and I want to get 7.1 Surround w/ Dolby Digital and people at astro recommended me to get the HT Omega Striker unless you guys have a better suggestion




Also note this will be my first time also
Edited by Degree - 7/26/11 at 10:36am
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as far as the AMD vs. Intel
i recommend getting something setup for AMD.
AMDs 8 core Bulldozer is just around the corner.
atm though, Intel's SB i5 and i7 chips are better than AMD's 6 core (although they are close)
the i5/i7 clock EXTREMELY easiely...you don't even have to know what you're doing to get to 4.6ish (4.8 to 5.0 is a different story though)
Yes get a dedicated sound card for 7.1 (i've got one for my 5.1 and i don't know what i'd do without it)


EDIT: Also do you mind typing everything out? Your links are going to neweggs homepage for me.
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I changed it now
Isn't bulldozer supposed to be released in September?
Also they just benchmarked BullDozer and people say 2500k is better

And is overclocking good or bad? I've seen people talk about it but I don't know what it is
Edited by Degree - 7/26/11 at 8:32am
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I changed it now
Isn't bulldozer supposed to be released in September?

And is overclocking good or bad? I've seen people talk about it but I don't know what it is
stable Overclocking = good
too much = bad
Overclocking is all about finding the threshold of power/performance and stability
you can OC your chip to 8GHz but it wont do you any good if it isn't stable (lol i HIGHLY recommend you DO NOT try to get to 8 GHz...you WILL fry your chip and most likely your MoBo)

EDIT: Also check out this thread i started about which MoBo you should get for the Bulldozer
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/107...bulldozer.html

if you don't wanna wait until september just grab a cheapo AMD chip that will work with one of these until then
Edited by Hazzeedayz - 7/26/11 at 8:34am
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I changed it now
Isn't bulldozer supposed to be released in September?
Also they just benchmarked BullDozer and people say 2500k is better

And is overclocking good or bad? I've seen people talk about it but I don't know what it is
I wouldn't go with BD, you are going to end up spending more money in the long run. Especially since you are going to have to buy a cpu now for the system to work, and then buy BD when it comes out later.
There hasn't been any definitive benchmarks at this point either saying which is better.
I am willing to be the 2500k is on par with, but most likely better, then BD when it comes out.

Overclocking is good, you basically get more then you paid for out of your chip. And the 2500k is incredibly easy to OC as well.

Suggestion: take a screenshot of your newegg cart, then use an image hosting site to upload it and post on here. Very tedious to have to copy and paste every item, when I can just look at the whole build in one shot.

EDIT: Good build though, looks solid to me. You can downgrade the psu to 550-650 watts and be just fine though. If you want to save some money up front, and don't plan on xfire down the road.
Edited by Grief - 7/26/11 at 8:40am
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Nvidia is not necessarily better than ATI for the price.
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Do you have a budget?

If so what is it, people on OCN like to suggest builds based on budgets and you can choose to chop and change however you please
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I wouldn't go with BD, you are going to end up spending more money in the long run. Especially since you are going to have to buy a cpu now for the system to work, and then buy BD when it comes out later.
There hasn't been any definitive benchmarks at this point either saying which is better.
I am willing to be the 2500k is on par with, but most likely better, then BD when it comes out.

Overclocking is good, you basically get more then you paid for out of your chip. And the 2500k is incredibly easy to OC as well.

Suggestion: take a screenshot of your newegg cart, then use an image hosting site to upload it and post on here. Very tedious to have to copy and paste every item, when I can just look at the whole build in one shot.

EDIT: Good build though, looks solid to me. You can downgrade the psu to 550-650 watts and be just fine though. If you want to save some money up front, and don't plan on xfire down the road.
ill agree with you that there aren't any benchmarks out BUT there has been a lot of talk of its performance (and yea i know...talk is just talk and does not count nearly as much as a benchmark would)

the main thing is that the Bulldozer is 50% faster than AMD's current CPUs and that's saying something considering the current 6 core is pretty close to the i5 (although there is a big difference when clocking the i5)

to me having 8 cores means that it can handle a LOT more things at once so the clocks on a 4 core and an 8 core cant truly be compared. i can argue this up and down all day long but i will have to agree that without a benchmark it's going to be hard to tell what is to become of the Bulldozer. Fans of AMD (ME ) are jsut going to have to trust that they are going to come through for us once again like the old days.
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ill agree with you that there aren't any benchmarks out BUT there has been a lot of talk of its performance (and yea i know...talk is just talk and does not count nearly as much as a benchmark would)

the main thing is that the Bulldozer is 50% faster than AMD's current CPUs and that's saying something considering the current 6 core is pretty close to the i5 (although there is a big difference when clocking the i5)
I don't even know where to start with this...lot of fail going on.

You are saying just talk is going on, so how do they have figures where its 50% faster then current AMD cpus? Even if that were, true AMD's current architecture isn't very good, if there wasn't a massive jump, see >100%, then its not much of an improvement.

Again, all of this is just complete speculation at this point. Holding out for this is such a bad idea.

Also lol @ thuban being close to i5 in actual performance for gaming, stock clocks alone there is a massive difference.

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to me having 8 cores means that it can handle a LOT more things at once so the clocks on a 4 core and an 8 core cant truly be compared. i can argue this up and down all day long but i will have to agree that without a benchmark it's going to be hard to tell what is to become of the Bulldozer. Fans of AMD (ME ) are jsut going to have to trust that they are going to come through for us once again like the old days.
The OP was designing this as a gaming build, not for anything else. And if you believe that an 8 core system is going to be > then a 4 core for gaming, then you are sadly misinformed.

The current gen of AMD cpus run into some harsh bottlenecks with upper level cards and xfire/sli. Hopefully BD fixes that, but at this point you can only recommend what is good now and not what may or may not be good later based on no data whatsoever.

The only thing you are accomplishing right now is confusing this guy.
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I'm sticking with the 2500k.

But as for the GPU and PSU, you guys know any good ones? And I want to keep my budget below $1500
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