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Originally Posted by Wishmaker View Post
You have a reasonable point but let's not forget the following:

1. In order for you to invent a phone that is compliant with the norm you need to make use of a few patents from Nokia. Sure, you can invent something totally new that will not work on the current infrastructure but I doubt it will be a hit.
2. From the moment Apple launched the iPhone they did exactly what they claim HTC and the Android world is doing: they were in blatant violation of a few patents. These patents belong to Nokia. Being Apple they refused to pay royalties like everyone else. A while back, Nokia and Apple reached a settlement. If memory serves, Nokia gets 8 $ per iPhone sold plus other goodies. Viceversa, Apple ends up using Nokia tech without being harassed.
3. The capacitive touchscreen belongs to Apple no doubt. Without them, you can be sure that using a stylus would still be in fashion. A huge point to Apple for showing people that a touch screen can be enjoyable and not frustrating like in the past. With cross-licensing, Nokia can use capacitive screens as much as they want without being sued.
4. This so called "reverse engineering" is to be expected in a market like this. It happens everywhere. Apple's reaction to Android devices comes at a time where analysts project a huge boom for Android. Jobs is simply trying to prevent this with the advantages given by the US legal system.
Yeah the naive, idealist inside me is screaming. But the older/wiser me knows this is just "playing the game". And Apple plays it well. Patent trolling is so common these days I'd be more surprised if it stopped coming up in headlines.

@BinaryDemon - Heh, but I seriously doubt Apple's target audience is even following these lawsuits.
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There is no way the courts will give Apple a monopoly... There is just no way....
I hope you don't mean American Courts. As we can plainly see, the American legal system/government couldn't find there way out of cardboard box. They have/will allow monopolies, Lobbyist run this country. A certain President swore on a stack of bibles while standing in front of the pope and then singing Amazing Grace and swearing on all that he loves (a figure of speech), that he'd get rid of lobbyists. 3+ years later,...there's even more lobbyists in Washington D.C then there were before that certain president took office.

If you study history you will see that all great empires fall. The bigger they are (like the Romans) the harder they fall. Then they will be replaced by another empire (it's the circle of life).

Personally (stay with me now),...I see apple as anti human. How could you create 10,000 products (80% of which are plain white) and not create anything that would seriously benefit mankind (given the platform they have,...when compared to google who's trying to openly take over the world/make it better)? Is it that you don't have the money for Research & Development? Is it that you don't have the Engineers? Is it that you don't have the resources to go out and solve life's problems that could be fixed with technology? Or is it that you want to have a cash cow.

I try my best to respect all businesses (because I myself am a small business owner). But I'm so old fashioned that if you can't do business with integrity I could not look you in the face nor respect you as a man. There was a time in history a man's hand shake or his words were written in stone. How could Apple talk about itself as an "innovator" when the only thing they've innovated is how to Patent Troll? Now it seems that certain companies like apple only want to make money as easily as possible.


Mark my words, Karma (regardless of what religious or scientific beliefs you have) will get you. You don't spend millions of dollars and waste time on suffocating companies, small businesses, app developers and other people that put there blood sweat in tears into there work and think that it won't come back to you. Steve Jobs is the face of apple. He's a "success story" but when he falls,...it'll be so hard & fast that I know he'll be remanded to a mental institution. Why? Because the bigger they are,...the harder they fall. The more feces you pour on people, the greater your own feces container will be when it's poured on you.

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What's funny is that Apple is only hurting themselves. Without a competitor to learn from, you won't advance far, and people get bored. New tech will come, and Apply might not be ready this time
It's Apple. People will still buy it.
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There is no way the courts will give Apple a monopoly... There is just no way....
They gave it to AT&T.....
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It's Apple. Lemmings will still buy it.
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i don't understand how apple can have patent on any form of touchscreen when touchscreen smartphones existed long before apple thought of an iphone.
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Originally Posted by mechati View Post
fixed
Thx.
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Originally Posted by K3VL4R View Post
Seconded.

Pic related: Inserted article quote for TLDR.

Pretty much sums it up.
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So in other words, "if the Zune were better it would be better"?
It really sucks MS stopped supporting the Zune,they had a very good PMP.
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i don't understand how apple can have patent on any form of touchscreen when touchscreen smartphones existed long before apple thought of an iphone.
As another user said,Apple is just afraid of companies like HTC and Samsung overtaking them in sales or market share,blocking the competition and sales of another company would make Apple a monopoly.
Inb4theapplefanboysdefendingapplebecauseitsapple.
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Talk about a sensational headline that'll do nothing but fire people up. I'll bet a million dollars that no HTC device ever gets banned in the US because of a patent dispute. This will get resolved one way or another, without HTC products or Apple's being banned from import. Guaranteed. The two will settle out of court. HTC is guilty of infringing on Apple's Patents (see, Apple had a reason to sue), and Apple is guilty of infringing on HTC's newly acquired S3 patents (see, HTC had a reason to sue).
 
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Cheaper HTC phones in europe
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Seconded.

Pic related: Inserted article quote for TLDR.

although correct, this is flawed. Think of patents as nukes. suing as war. Countries have nukes so that other countries don't use their nukes. This is what the quote states. The problem here is that Apple are sending out those nukes and essentially attacking other countries because they are about to become an important competitor in the world economy (a super power).

You just need to scale down what I said to a smaller level but metaphorically, they are like situations. (many factors change but the idea of having the nukes for protection stays the same)
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