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What's funny is that Apple is only hurting themselves. Without a competitor to learn from, you won't advance far, and people get bored. New tech will come, and Apply might not be ready this time
LoL right, Apple is hurting themselves by limiting competition....

YOU, as a techie, care about advancement. Apple, as a company, cares about cash.

So what you should be saying is Apple is only hurting consumers.
    
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Usually Apple is the one that sets the standard, everyone just waits for them to release great ideas and then piggy back on them with alternate, some times more advanced only because they have more iterations of a particular product in an industry eg: phones.
more like , others develop an idea, apple steals it, lemmings buys it and claims its originality and then mass force it as the standard( it cant be a standard unless majority claims it as such). later on bully the original developer companies for stealing apple's so call innovation(with less features then it should be 2 years ago)

in order to win these lemmings the other companies are trying to offer them the candy that apple sells to them

who are to be blamed? pretty much the lemmings
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This is how competition works, one person does one thing, another improves, and another, and another.

Somehow, people have come to the conclusion that no one has any unique ideas, and that Apple is the only one that changes anything.

I challenge you to look at PalmOS and tell me that iOS isn't just an improved version of it.

Also, that slide to unlock feature was an app I had on my old Palm.

Apple's marketing is superb, and it's scary how well it's worked on the masses.
IIRC, I think apple bought the patent for Palm... don't quote me I'm not exactly sure.


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more like , others develop an idea, apple steals it, lemmings buys it and claims its originality and then mass force it as the standard( it cant be a standard unless majority claims it as such). later on bully the original developer companies for stealing apple's so call innovation(with less features then it should be 2 years ago)

in order to win these lemmings the other companies are trying to offer them the candy that apple sells to them

who are to be blamed? pretty much the lemmings
AKA the majority of Mac users. They think Apple is god when it comes to PC hardware(LOL it's the same thing as a PC) and that their phone is better than Android. Especially considering they have to pay for all their apps.
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I remember way back when Apple said Multi-Touch and Capacitive displays were "invented and patented" by Apple. Among several other bogus things. I highly doubt Apple will actually be able to Force an embargo on HTC products. HTC will obviously pay them an "undisclosed" amount to keep that from happening. I think it's sad Apple has gone this far against other platforms. Apple sickens me.
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This might all become moot in a couple of months as there is a major trade bill before our congress right now that is looking into imported devices and their licensing that may undercut apples position. It would take into account first dated copywrite in other trade counties on imports to the us.
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This whole ordeal is a little fishy to me. What is Apples actual intent to banning HTC from making sales in the US Market? Why exactly is Apple trying to ban and patent abuse every single competitor that is either 1, taking significant sales away from Apple, or 2, providing products of a much higher degree of quality compared to theirs? HTC is one of the few that offers a UI that users enjoy, that is known to the public in a similar marketed degree of apples UI, to anyone looking for a new phone.

I wouldn't be surprised Apple is trying to gain a "semi-monopoly" by beating out all of their top competitors that don't have enough spare change to hire better lawyers. Since there will be the "little guys" in the market, you couldn't claim a monopoly. But frankly, if Apple takes 95% of the market share and leaves a few companies that they don't need to worry about, I'd still call it a monopoly as their intents are not to consume the market, but ban every possible company that is able to compete from such.

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And virtually all of those were in response to the rumored iPad. Every one of those companies knew Apple was going to blow them away so they scrambled and brought a ton of vaporware to CES that year. All of those tablets you listed are utter flops by the way. The original iPad is still miles better than almost every tablet on the market, and the iPad 2 is WAY ahead. Nothing comes close.
The iPad is just an enlarged Palm, and any other smart phone or PDA that consisted of an operating system with a internet browser and or GPS of that era. These products made millions before the introduction of the iPad or iPhone.

When you come to think about it, even the iPhone did not bring anything new to the phone lineup. What was successful about the iPhone was its app store and how it was marketed. Windows had a similar app store, but filled with much, much less apps. Apple just, bluntly, copied Windows Mobile OS, gave it a new skin, and called it revolutionary. Go figure...
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It's stuff like this that makes me hate Apple. Instead of innovating and trying to stay ahead of the game, they just shoot down any worthy competitors.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. Literally, hate the horrible patent game. Because of a court case many years ago ridiculous things like software and business models can be patented. Now we have the current patent warfare, no real fix on the horizon (the patent reform bills in congress right now will NOT fix this problem) and large, serious impediments to companies wanting release innovative and competitive products.

This American Life did a great show on this stuff, When Patents Attack!, here is the link:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radi...patents-attack

I recommend everyone listen to this show.
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And virtually all of those were in response to the rumored iPad. Every one of those companies knew Apple was going to blow them away so they scrambled and brought a ton of vaporware to CES that year. All of those tablets you listed are utter flops by the way. The original iPad is still miles better than almost every tablet on the market, and the iPad 2 is WAY ahead. Nothing comes close.
Saying one tablet is better than the other is really subjective...
    
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A lot of the reason you see Apple hating on HTC and Samsung and not companies like LG, Motorola, and Sony is due to the relationship between the companies.

For example, Apple pretty much owes the entire PowerPC lineup to Motorola in the first place, and several Motorola components make iphones, ipods, and macbooks possible as well. Even Apple knows to not bite the hand that feeds.

The iPad display's and several other iDevice displays have been provided by LG.

Sony disc drives have been utilized in mac devices for years as well.

HTC, Samsung (aside from recent news looking at implementing AMOLED displays in the iPad 3) have almost literally no integration with the iIndustry or iCommerce so Apple feels that they can freely attack them, its an obvious move. This is probably a safe move for Samsung, and will probably keep them in the clear for the iWars.
    
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