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Regardless of your review (which was indepth by the way) I'll probably still pick this up to try out sometime in the near future as it seems to be the best bet for any claw grip mouse.

It seems like you have incredibly high, near impossible to reach standards for mice.
Ive told him this. He wont find a mouse he wants as i doesnt exist. Their is no perfect sensor. Not even the overhyped DA is perfect.

You need to make do with what you have and get it out of your head.
post #172 of 367
if you are saying the mouse is fine and anyone with a problem is a fanboy simply, you are not able to notice these slight problems

myself and clearly a few others are HIGHLY sensitive to these sorts of changes/problems and so we are technically at a loss. i wish i was your avg modern ogre of a gamer in terms of sensing things alas im not sucks for me
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Ive told him this. He wont find a mouse he wants as i doesnt exist. Their is no perfect sensor. Not even the overhyped DA is perfect.

You need to make do with what you have and get it out of your head.
Yes there is a perfect sensor, its in the DA 3.5G. There is ZERO flaws with it as I easily fixed its lift off distance with some tape. Very high perfect control speed, low to no prediction, no acceleration problems..... Perfect. Its just stuck in a big herpderp palm grip shape that I don't like very much. Razer put the same sensor in the abyssus but its stuck on an old firmware that jitters and it isn't flashable.

Stop making fail comments.
post #174 of 367
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Originally Posted by dmxdex2020 View Post
On all dpi settings?

How much?
I tested the Spawn in game at 800 and 1800, both had the issue. I never tested it at 3500, I got fed up. As far as how much, the only way I can really think of comparing it would be the negative accel on the 3.0 - if you've ever used the 3.0 and hit the threshold for it, the mouse moves much slower than you are moving the mouse, it's very noticeable. While the Spawn wasn't as bad as the 3.0, the negative accel was very noticeable. I don't have any way to measure exactly how fast I was moving the mouse, but it wasn't much faster than it takes me to make my 3.0 wig out completely - so probably in the 2m/s area. I'm above the perfect control speed of the 3.0 with pretty much every other swipe, so having negative accel happen this close to my normal speed is a complete deal breaker.

I will say this, though - in my time playing counterstrike, which has been about 9 years now, I've only met 3-4 people who use a sensitivity close to or below mine. So, this probably won't affect the vast majority of people. If you aren't playing at a very low sens, the 3090 will probably be amazing for you. For guys like me, the DA and 518 are the only real options (the avago 9500 mice will work on hard surfaces too, but the problem is a lack of good hard pads at a size that will accommodate the very low sens I play at)

I also have to agree with derp about not just getting used to something that isn't what he wants. I've been through at least 20 different kinds of mice looking for one that has everything I want, and won't stop until I find it. There's absolutely no reason to jump on his case simply because you don't agree with that philosophy - just go about your business and let him find what he wants. His chase has lead to quite a few reviews that have saved me money.
Edited by Themanbeast - 8/6/11 at 5:16pm
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Yes there is a perfect sensor, its in the DA 3.5G. There is ZERO flaws with it as I easily fixed its lift off distance with some tape. Very high perfect control speed, low to no prediction, no acceleration problems..... Perfect. Its just stuck in a big herpderp palm grip shape that I don't like very much. Razer put the same sensor in the abyssus but its stuck on an old firmware that jitters and it isn't flashable.

Stop making fail comments.
Its perfect apart from its high lod. Yep its perfect. No stop moaning about little things in mice as its sad. Their is no perfect sensor out right now.

Tape trick ey. You have to mod the sensor and then the tape scrapes on the bottom.

The DA also has terrible feet. Its not perfect by any means not to mention the glossy sides. If you want to come back with the BE the rubber peals off after a few months, not to mention their build quality is poor and prices.
Edited by dmxdex2020 - 8/6/11 at 5:51pm
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Its perfect apart from its high lod. Yep its perfect. No stop moaning about little things in mice as its sad. Their is no perfect sensor out right now.
could have SWORN the abyssus has no jitter in the LOL edition and above? confirm deny?
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post #177 of 367
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I tested the Spawn in game at 800 and 1800, both had the issue. I never tested it at 3500, I got fed up. As far as how much, the only way I can really think of comparing it would be the negative accel on the 3.0 - if you've ever used the 3.0 and hit the threshold for it, the mouse moves much slower than you are moving the mouse, it's very noticeable. While the Spawn wasn't as bad as the 3.0, the negative accel was very noticeable. I don't have any way to measure exactly how fast I was moving the mouse, but it wasn't much faster than it takes me to make my 3.0 wig out completely - so probably in the 2m/s area. I'm above the perfect control speed of the 3.0 with pretty much every other swipe, so having negative accel happen this close to my normal speed is a complete deal breaker.

I will say this, though - in my time playing counterstrike, which has been about 9 years now, I've only met 3-4 people who use a sensitivity close to or below mine. So, this probably won't affect the vast majority of people. If you aren't playing at a very low sens, the 3090 will probably be amazing for you. For guys like me, the DA and 518 are the only real options (the avago 9500 mice will work on hard surfaces too, but the problem is a lack of good hard pads at a size that will accommodate the very low sens I play at)

I also have to agree with derp about not just getting used to something that isn't what he wants. I've been through at least 20 different kinds of mice looking for one that has everything I want, and won't stop until I find it. There's absolutely no reason to jump on his case simply because you don't agree with that philosophy - just go about your business and let him find what he wants. His chase has lead to quite a few reviews that have saved me money.
He whinges about every mouse and its boring now. Their is no perfect mouse on the planet. Every mouse will have its cons.
post #178 of 367
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Originally Posted by Themanbeast View Post
I tested the Spawn in game at 800 and 1800, both had the issue. I never tested it at 3500, I got fed up. As far as how much, the only way I can really think of comparing it would be the negative accel on the 3.0 - if you've ever used the 3.0 and hit the threshold for it, the mouse moves much slower than you are moving the mouse, it's very noticeable. While the Spawn wasn't as bad as the 3.0, the negative accel was very noticeable. I don't have any way to measure exactly how fast I was moving the mouse, but it wasn't much faster than it takes me to make my 3.0 wig out completely - so probably in the 2m/s area. I'm above the perfect control speed of the 3.0 with pretty much every other swipe, so having negative accel happen this close to my normal speed is a complete deal breaker.

I will say this, though - in my time playing counterstrike, which has been about 9 years now, I've only met 3-4 people who use a sensitivity close to or below mine. So, this probably won't affect the vast majority of people. If you aren't playing at a very low sens, the 3090 will probably be amazing for you. For guys like me, the DA and 518 are the only real options (the avago 9500 mice will work on hard surfaces too, but the problem is a lack of good hard pads at a size that will accommodate the very low sens I play at)

I also have to agree with derp about not just getting used to something that isn't what he wants. I've been through at least 20 different kinds of mice looking for one that has everything I want, and won't stop until I find it. There's absolutely no reason to jump on his case simply because you don't agree with that philosophy - just go about your business and let him find what he wants. His chase has lead to quite a few reviews that have saved me money.
He whinges about every mouse and its boring now. Their is no perfect mouse on the planet. Every mouse will have its cons.

Double post lol soz.

Thanks for that info mate i will give it a try. I need to try out a proper claw grip mouse as the issue i have is ive only ever used palm grip some ive got on ok with. Best mouse i used was the original roccat kone and DA 3g. I cannot use the DA Anymore, im not too keen on the shape anymore for some reason, i prefer the logitech type shape now.
Edited by dmxdex2020 - 8/6/11 at 5:47pm
post #179 of 367
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Originally Posted by Derp View Post
Yes there is a perfect sensor, its in the DA 3.5G. There is ZERO flaws with it as I easily fixed its lift off distance with some tape. Very high perfect control speed, low to no prediction, no acceleration problems..... Perfect. Its just stuck in a big herpderp palm grip shape that I don't like very much. Razer put the same sensor in the abyssus but its stuck on an old firmware that jitters and it isn't flashable.

Stop making fail comments.
That doesn't sound like a perfect sensor.
post #180 of 367
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could have SWORN the abyssus has no jitter in the LOL edition and above? confirm deny?
No side buttons lol. If only they did. My next mouse is defo the spawn. And some say their lol version is fine and others say they have a jittery one.
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