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Originally Posted by Derp;14506753 
After the flash was completed I replugged the mouse and spent a whole 30 seconds to realize that the perfect control speed had been even lower than the stock 30a firmware that it came with. The LOD felt much lower but I didn't actually measure the LOD with CD's because the LOD isn't important to me when the perfect control speed is so low the mouse is unusable.
So you have no other way of telling that you changed the firmware than it "felt" lower?


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Originally Posted by Derp;14506753 
Mine jittered at all firmwares but only at the 800CPI step. It would only jitter at angles moving at a medium speed, not straight lines.

Those lines are at different speeds. slow, medium, fast

Even in the non straight lines the jitter is much much lower than what you experienced


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Originally Posted by Derp;14506753 
Ive said this many times, I'm not using software to tell me how much perfect control speed a mouse has. The only reference I have is from the mouse score. I don't have a problem with the perfect control speed on my MX518 which they measured at a flat 2m/s. If the spawn actually had that kind of perfect control speed at any of its firmwares then I wouldn't have had a problem with the mouse. I also linked others saying the same thing int he review.

So are you running your mx518 at 125hz?


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Originally Posted by Derp;14506753 
I disagree. And about the cable, I think I remember someone saying the spawns cable was so thick it wouldn't even fit in their mouse bungee.

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post #262 of 367
I use it at 1800DPI and 1000Hz setting.

No problems so far.

And yeah the scroll wheel irons itself out after awhile.
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post #263 of 367
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Originally Posted by HaiiYaa;14506819 
So you have no other way of telling that you changed the firmware than it "felt" lower?


Those lines are at different speeds. slow, medium, fast

Even in the non straight lines the jitter is much much lower than what you experienced





So are you running your mx518 at 125hz?





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What proof do you need? I have no reason to lie, the differences weren't hard to notice. The polling rate didn't have any effect on the perfect control speed on the MX518 in the test so that doesn't matter in the slightest. And I don't have a bungee, I was only saying someone else said it on ESR.

"cable is too thick for a bungee. go figure."
post #264 of 367
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Originally Posted by Derp;14506753 
"As we can see, the MX518 has Perfect Control up to 2.03 m/s (80"/s)"

Where are you getting that 3,5m/s from?

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post #265 of 367
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The first graph is relevant with the QCK but the other pads are covering the results. You really think that shows a 3.5 m/s perfect control speed? confused.gif

And the second graph is proven to be a bug with setpoint drivers only on the newer revision of MX518's. This didn't happen on the original 1600CPI MX518. Either way, remove the drivers and the polling rate doesn't change the perfect control speed of the MX518.
post #266 of 367
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Originally Posted by Derp;14506852 
What proof do you need? I have no reason to lie,

Thats exactly my point. I don't think you lie about your experiences with the spawn but don't go and indirectly say that me or others are lying because we don't experience the same thing as you.

You said that indirectly when you said you didn't think you got a lemon and because cmcarter has been observing the thread without replying.
post #267 of 367
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Originally Posted by Derp;14506885 
The first graph is relevant with the QCK but the other pads are covering the results. You really think that shows a 3.5 m/s perfect control speed? confused.gif

You take the perfect control speed from the mousepad where the mouse perform it best, therefore it would be around 3,5m/s

When the perfect control go, the counts(fps) will also. If you look at the sp in the graph for example the counts all keep in a straight line till around 3,5m/s
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Originally Posted by HaiiYaa;14507047 
You take the perfect control speed from the mousepad where the mouse perform it best, therefore it would be around 3,5m/s

When the perfect control go, the counts(fps) will also. If you look at the sp in the graph for example the counts all keep in a straight line till around 3,5m/s

Doesn't matter in the slightest when I'm using a black cloth pad. You take the closest comparable result which is 2 m/s.

And I'm sorry HaiiYa, I don't believe your spawn results. You can hunt for excuses but it won't change my results. Its a mediocre mouse with a mediocre sensor (in the hands of CM at least) that is entirely outclassed by sensors that have been out for half a decade.
post #269 of 367
It seems all the people who whinge on these forums and have unrealistic standards play at 10 dpi. Or are stuck in the golden ages of CSS.
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