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post #11 of 20
It's way higher than 2m/s. I'm unable to make it malfunction no matter how hard I try. First X7 models worked with 125Hz polling rate only, maybe it's the reason of lower max speed in MouseScore 2007. I tested 2 A4Tech mice with ADNS-3060, results are the same as I've written above.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Skylit;14357973 
I could make the Ikari optical easily malfunction well below those speeds. I'd say it's closer to 2m/s on cloth and around 1.5>m/s on wood/hardsurface unless steelseries did something to royalty screw up the mouse. The A4tech Mouse sujoy reviewed back in 07 also malfunctioned at 2.23m/s http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=20 Of course, that's with actual hardware testing.

Bout Lift off, it seems to be "controllable" through firmware according to the data sheet.

Not saying you're lying, but you must have the hands of a god because I just pulled out my Ikari Optical and I can't make it skip at all at 400 DPI no matter how fast I flick it. Maybe I'm just not swiping fast enough? tongue.gif
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sixxxxxx;14361491 
Not saying you're lying, but you must have the hands of a god because I just pulled out my Ikari Optical and I can't make it skip at all at 400 DPI no matter how fast I flick it. Maybe I'm just not swiping fast enough? tongue.gif

Lemme rephrase that. I'm not sure if I could make it malfunction on cloth, but it was highly noticeable on a wood/hard table.

With the MLT 04 I can constantly hit neg accel, but I cant get it to malfunction unless I'm trying (2.1m/s)

Edit: I have it around here somewhere. Lemme do some quick test.

Edit2: Okay. The thing won't malfunction for anything on my Kai.G3, but it does on my QcK for some odd reason. Hard surface is still the same story.
Edited by Skylit - 7/26/11 at 11:29pm
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by CMCarter;14354673 
We are currently working with this sensor. Look for a mouse or two in Sept.

^ CM Storm is on top of their mouse game it seems.

Also, that could be a great mouse if it had no prediction/"angle snapping." I like small, super lightweight mice like the mico.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Bullveyr;14354948 
Most sensor have 8 bit data paths but because of the higher "polling rate" that's not a problem.

If USB is 8 bit, even with 1000 Hz polling you can still hit the max report speed with high enough cpi...

127 * Hz / cpi * 2.54 / 100 = max report speed in m/s

doing the calculations:
8-bit @ 1000 Hz
250 cpi = 12.9 m/s
500 cpi = 6.45 m/s
1000 cpi = 3.23 m/s
1250 cpi = 2.58 m/s
1500 cpi = 2.15 m/s
1750 cpi = 1.84 m/s
2000 cpi = 1.61 m/s

8-bit @ 500 Hz (e.g. Zowie Mico)
400 cpi = 4.03 m/s
800 cpi = 2.02 m/s
1600 cpi = 1.01 m/s

That said... if you move your mouse fast (3-4 m/s) you are probably playing with low sens and have no need for high cpi.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by CMCarter;14354673 
We are currently working with this sensor. Look for a mouse or two in Sept.

Please trash that horrible Philips Twin Eye sensor.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by microe;14363435 
If USB is 8 bit, even with 1000 Hz polling you can still hit the max report speed with high enough cpi...

127 * Hz / cpi * 2.54 / 100 = max report speed in m/s

doing the calculations:
8-bit @ 1000 Hz
250 cpi = 12.9 m/s
500 cpi = 6.45 m/s
1000 cpi = 3.23 m/s
1250 cpi = 2.58 m/s
1500 cpi = 2.15 m/s
1750 cpi = 1.84 m/s
2000 cpi = 1.61 m/s

8-bit @ 500 Hz (e.g. Zowie Mico)
400 cpi = 4.03 m/s
800 cpi = 2.02 m/s
1600 cpi = 1.01 m/s

That said... if you move your mouse fast (3-4 m/s) you are probably playing with low sens and have no need for high cpi.
You misundertood something, the SPI of the sensor is 8 bit.
That's not the data path between your PC and the mouse, it's the data path between the sensor and the MCU of the mouse. This SPI clocks with up to 1MHz in the case of the A3050.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by CMCarter;14354673 
We are currently working with this sensor. Look for a mouse or two in Sept.

Waiting patiently typer.gif
I hope one of them gonna be symmetrical, lightweight, claw grip mouse.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Kand;14363504 
Please trash that horrible Philips Twin Eye sensor.

^^^^

Also, to the hardware rep, does this new sensor have built in accel/prediction? If it doesn't that would be fantastic.
post #20 of 20
you could accumulate the sensor data in the mcu and poll the sensor as quick as possible so the 8 bit should be no problem.

I would expect this sensor to perform slightly better than the pixart. (would be a pity for all the kana fans in this case.)
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