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I heard that I should get an ssd to bootup my os and then get a 1tb hdd at 7200 rpms just for gaming. Is that true or should I just get like two 256gb ssds?

Edit:: So I can't use a pci express 2.0 card on a 3.0 slot?
you can fit your important games on your SSD. Example: ME
On my 120gb SSD, i have windows 7, BFBC2, SC2, and all my programs on my SSD, with 70gb out of 111gb (what a 120gb drive actually is) free. So i've only used 1/3 of my drive on two BIG games and all my programs. You'll have room for at least 8 more games on the SSD alone. and the 7200RPM drive for movies/music and extra gaming space.

and you CAN use PCI 2.0 in 3.0 slot, its backwards compatible.
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Originally Posted by Carlos Hilgert Ferrari View Post
Omg, ppl are suggestion Overkilled PSU.

For a CFX/SLI with Intel processors 6950/560 you get a 650w PSU (corsair/xfx/antec/seasonic)
For CFX/SLI 6970/570 you get a 750w PSU (same brands)

For a 580/6990 you get a 550w PSU (same Brands)


That's my contribution here
So, if I would like to get two 580s and SLI them, 750w?
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What do you recommend, two 580s or two 6970s/6950s?
2 6970's 2 580's if you have 1000$ extra
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So, if I would like to get two 580s and SLI them, 750w?
No, at least 850w. For a better OC margin
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I don't if your interested but you could buy my Sig rig. Ssd for OS, 1tb for games, 2tb for storage
    
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Okay I'm motivated... I'll take care of your future PC.
I have selected the best values for your needs based on awards, reviews, feedback, my knowledge and the little researchs I've done. I'd like to see if someone can provide better components.

Motherboard : GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P (Tom's Hardware recommended buy 2011)
Processor : i5 2500k (or i7 2600k if you want Hyperthreading, useless for gaming)
Processor cooler : Noctua NH-U12P (not sure if it is the very best value these days but it is an award-winning cooler)
Video card : Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II (HardOCP Enthusiast Gold Award)
PSU : Silverstone ST60F-P or other Good 600W modular PSU (or Corsair AX850 if you want to be SLI-ready)
DVD drive : LG GH24NS70 or other 24x DVD drive
Case : A good case. Make this choice yourself. See reviews. I suggest you Silverstone Raven Series, NZXT Phantom, Cooler Master HAF Series (don't like the design plus I'm allergic to Cooler Master, don't even know why )
Data (or even System) HDD : Samsung SpinPoint F3 1Tb (Best 1Tb drive currently available)
Monitor : Asus VW246H (Customer choice award winner)

-----these are facultative-----
SSD (if you want one) : Crucial M4 64Gb or Crucial M4 128Gb
- OR -
System HDDs : Western Digital VelociRaptor WD4500BLHX 450GB (fastest HDD)
------------------------------------

It isn't easy to pick parts... GL with your PC !
Edited by adridu59 - 7/26/11 at 4:35pm
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Future proofing is garbage in PC builds. However, having PCI 3.0 is as close as you'll get to future proofing i suppose. the P67 boards with PCI 3.0 are fine too, z68 has stuff you dont need, like ssd caching and onboard video.

speaking of ssd's... GET AN SSD. i did an 1100$ build and got a vertex 3 120gb for 250$. it was DEFINITELY worth it. if you have 2500$ and you DONT get an SSD, i'd probably hang my head in shame for you. It's the LARGEST noticeable upgrade a computer can get these days and it destroys even two raptors in RAID 0
lol, slow down before you post mate... look at what you said...
"z68 has stuff you don't need, like:
1)ssd caching. Not everyone has money to spend on a gazillion GB ssd. Read this:
http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...omparison.html
and see what others say about their board with SSD caching. If you are on a budget and want a snappier OS, it is like heaven.

2) onboard video.
So the day your GPU craps out on your or you RMA the card, do you REALLY want to be stuck with a computer you can't use simply because you don't have a backup card?

@OP:
If you set your budget that high, the probability of wasting the money is so huge.
Keep the $1600 budget and max that out first. After that is complete, then you pull up another ~$400-$900 and see if you can make any substantial upgrades to your ~$1600 rig.

I built this rig with a ~$1000 budget since I already have a monitor. With 1600, I only need to dump an SSD in there. If want to show off, then maybe a blu-ray drive I'll hardly ever use. (I've only used the one on my laptop once.)

If you plan to go encode video or do anything which is SUPER processor intensive, then you could get the 2600K. Quite honestly, I'd say save the money and get a 2500k. (If you are super eager to 'waste' money, then you might as well pick up a 995x )

For the board, I STRONGLY advice you get a z68 board so you don't not-very-intelligently have to spend excess amounts on huge SSD's. (I may have an ASUS p67, but for z68, stick with Gigabyte). if you can afford a 256GB one and think it is worth it, do that. (I wouldn't even if I had a $10,000 budget because it is simply not worth it for MY applications).
For traditional hard drives, despite the fact that you seem to have a lot of cash lying around (the budget as well as buying a new laptop even year...), avoid spending money on like 4TB builds unless you absolutely need that much space. Get a reliable 2TB (Samsung F4, WD Green) for storage if you think you'll even use that much space. One thing about HDD's is that when you have a lot of space, you tend to find junk to fill 'em up.

For the case, unless you really want to have a bigger e-peen or just to show off, avoid spending ridiculous amounts on cases just because of the brand name especially if you don't need the features/couldn't care less. I'd say cap the case funds at ~$200 (I wouldn't spend over $120) and heavily consider the upsides and downsides. If you want air cooling and a full tower, the HAF-X is hard to beat for what it offers. The Phantom is another great case though not the best for air cooling (it is not bad either).

I got my case because I wanted a mid-tower that would fit under my desk, was light and would offer great cooling with fan filters, as well as a black interior and decent cable management.

If color accuracy is a big deal in your book, then for the monitor, invest in an IPS (I only 'recommend' Dells here. Seems to have much less ghosting issues than many of the others). If not, get a cheap, yet solid 1080p TN (ASUS, Acer, Samsung) for ~$200 tops - 23"-24" unless you want something bigger.

For graphics cards, I'd say get the top of the line from your preferred manufacturer.
If you're going Nvidia and think it is worth the money, get a 3GB GTX580. (not recommending a GTX 590 simply because imo, it is not worth it's price. )
If you want to be with the red team, get a 6970 or 6990.
AMD drivers aren't the worst thing in the world. I know people who have NEVER had an issue with their drivers. As at now, they ARE facing major issues with Crysis 2 which we hope will get fixed with their *delayed* Catalyst 11.7 release.

I went AMD because I am poor and could not justify the price for a GTX 580 and I wanted a 2GB framebuffer.

For the PSU, don't get anything over 1000W. It is a complete waste of your money.

You system will do excellently with an 850W PSU and allow room for SLI-ing down the line. If you really want to spend on the PSU, I'd say get an ~850W, modular PSU with a Gold rating.

For RAM, do not get anything over 8GB because you simply don't need it. Let the money instead go to speed and timings. Get a 1866Mhz (though you won't see too much improvement) 2x4GB kit.

Again, you do NOT need to spend that much money to get the "best" rig, cos you know what? In a year's time, someone will spend $1000 and completely smoke your $2500 rig. Focus on the best price/performance ratio and save the money for other more important things. Contrary to popular belief, money here today will not always be there tomorrow.

Feel free to ask me to clarify anything I've written and you are free to disagree with me.

Also, avoid velociraptors with that kind of budget. They are not bad, but if you want speed, get an SSD.

EDIT:
I forgot about cooling. If you have money to spend and are up for the maintenance, risks, and joys of water cooling, get a full watercooling loop. In which case you might want to consider a Corsair Obsidian as your preferred case.

Best,
DK
Edited by dklimitless - 7/26/11 at 4:48pm
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I agree get a Z68 mobo. As for an SSD the crucial M4 is the best to go with. Do not get the raptor hdd for storage get the WD caviar black is faster and better than the raptor. I personally would not go with Samsung hdd at all.

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lol, slow down before you post mate... look at what you said...
"z68 has stuff you don't need, like:
1)ssd caching. Not everyone has money to spend on a gazillion GB ssd. Read this:
http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...omparison.html
and see what others say about their board with SSD caching. If you are on a budget and want a snappier OS, it is like heaven.

2) onboard video.
So the day your GPU craps out on your or you RMA the card, do you REALLY want to be stuck with a computer you can't use simply because you don't have a backup card?
I did think about what i said. SSD caching is worthless if you even buy a 60Gb SSD and with 2500$ to spend, he most likely WILL get an SSD of that size or larger.

As far as the onboard video, yes, that is a valid argument many people use, but it's also the only argument, and even then, most people have a crappy video card from an old computer they can pop in to test, OP said he had crappy desktop. Crappy desktop card will work if his card fails. ALSO, OP stated he's getting SLI/crossfire, i highly doubt BOTH his cards will fail. A cheaper p67 will give extra money for parts and he wont lose features he wont need, unless he buys a 20gb SSD or has BOTh cards fail on him... pretty unlikely. :/
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