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And your point is?

I just don't like it. Period :\\.
post #22 of 38
Buy four a4tech mice and save 5$
Seriously, those are great for that price.
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And your point is?

I just don't like it. Period :\\.
???

its "steel series ikari" ( optical/laser) 1 of the best gaming mouse available
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???

its "steel series ikari" ( optical/laser) 1 of the best gaming mouse available
And again, your point is? I don't like it especially because of it's shape, it just doesn't seem fit for claw/fingertip grip. Also i prefer the Kova+ which is at almost the same price range.

The price that i posted before included transportation so the kova would be about 70$ and the Ikari is the same.

EDIT: Also i think i'm better off with the MX518 and G400 for my style of grips and their cheaper too.

I will ask again between an A4tech (20$) and Kova+(85$) what should i buy? It is worth the price difference? (don't worry aquasurfer, i didn't forget your post )
Edited by Christo4 - 7/28/11 at 9:21am
post #25 of 38
I've used my MX518 for 4 years and I gotta say it's one of my FAVORITE mouses of all time. My hand grew since I bought it and after it broke I had to get something bigger.

I ended up buying the deathadder 3G and I'm just as fanatical about this mouse as I was about the MX518. Both are great, and both have different strengths/weaknesses.

Lift-off distances are great for both mice. The DA will need 1.39/1.40 firmware and 3.03 drivers to get a low LOD (~1-1.5mm). Otherwise you'll have a 3.5mm lift off distance.

Choose the MX518 if you have a smaller hand. It DOES have a lower perfectcontrol rate but I never had problems with this mouse skipping until it died. The MX518 has really ****ty scroll wheels and every one I've tried either triggers too easily or triggers wrongly by going up AND down. I never use the scroll wheel in gaming so it didn't matter. The MX518 is amazing 8). On-the-fly sensitivity changes were instant but the top DPI button is uncomfortable to hit.

Get the deathadder if you have a larger hand. It's more precise on paper but I realistically didn't notice any differences since I don't make crazy 4m/s swipes. Razer has a bad reputation for ****ty quality control but I've actually had more problems with Logitech mice. This never bothered me since I'd just return the mouse and exchange it for another one. The on-the-fly DPI change for the deathadder sucks. You have to wait 1-2 seconds for it to change. Not a problem for me, but it might be for others.

One thing to note: the MX518 has prediction. This isn't an inherent problem since the prediction is.. well predictable. However it was hard as **** to use any other mouse, even when gaming at friends houses. This sucked because all of my friends had Microsoft/Razer mice. Changing to the deathadder sucked and it took a WHILE to fine-tune my railflicks and twitch-impulse shots.

If you buy any mouse with prediction you'll be stuck buying the same model time and time again. Prediction isn't the same from mouse to mouse, even within the same company.

Good luck in your decisions dude. Either of these mouses are great! The 3.5g DA is a great substitute for the 3G deathadder if you don't mind a large lift-off distance.
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post #26 of 38
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Well hella if you don't mind answering a question of mine: Is the MX518 good for fingertip grip?

I was watching my grip with my Saiph and although i thought i had claw, i think it's mostly fingertip. Just that the mouse is pretty long and i touch the base with the bottom of my hand, but other than that i use as fingertip. It's good because i have more control.

Also i use a pretty big sensitivity which is about 2400 i believe. And i do flick the mouse pretty hard and the sensor being laser i think that's why i can't aim properly sometimes.

Another thought: Is it worth waiting for a bigger mouse with the avago 3090 sensor (like the spawn)?
post #27 of 38
Dude, I have larger hands and the MX518 is terrible for my palm grip. I actually was using the fingertip grip, without knowing what it was, towards the last year of use because it was the most comfortable (yet still uncomfortable) way of using it. My hands got hella bigger.

But to ask which mouse is better for fingertip gripping really depends upon how you fingertip grip. Do you prefer a tight grip or a relaxed one?

The MX518's slimmer profile and rubberized sides lets you straddle your mouse tightly. The Deathadder is broader and has smooth plastic sides so you use a looser fingertip grip. Also, fingertip gripping won't work on the DA unless you have larger hands.

If you have sweaty hands the DA won't work either. The black edition with it's rubberized sides would fix that problem.

Most fingertip grippers like to straddle their mouse tightly and the MX518 would be the better mouse for that situation.
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post #28 of 38
I'm not a mouse guru but I can tell you my first gaming mouse was a Logitech G5, I loved it.

Then I moved to a Logitech G500 and loved it even more!

Here in Spain I can grab a G500 for 30-40€ which is pretty cheap imo and it is well worth it for such a nice gaming mouse.

I don't know about other mouses though.
    
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post #29 of 38
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Dude, I have larger hands and the MX518 is terrible for my palm grip. I actually was using the fingertip grip, without knowing what it was, towards the last year of use because it was the most comfortable (yet still uncomfortable) way of using it. My hands got hella bigger.

But to ask which mouse is better for fingertip gripping really depends upon how you fingertip grip. Do you prefer a tight grip or a relaxed one?

The MX518's slimmer profile and rubberized sides lets you straddle your mouse tightly. The Deathadder is broader and has smooth plastic sides so you use a looser fingertip grip. Also, fingertip gripping won't work on the DA unless you have larger hands.

If you have sweaty hands the DA won't work either. The black edition with it's rubberized sides would fix that problem.

Most fingertip grippers like to straddle their mouse tightly and the MX518 would be the better mouse for that situation.
I'm quite agree with you in the mx518 part of beign not comfort for plam grip, I also can add the kinzu and xai to the uncomfortable list.
Main reason that thing aren't comfortable is beacause of the right-side of it.
its like \\ \\ sides, unlike the lovley ime3.0 that have like \\/ sides.
Hope you understand my point.
post #30 of 38
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???

its "steel series ikari" ( optical/laser) 1 of the best gaming mouse available
It has double click issues and some say it has lag. Most people prefer mionix 3200 to it, and even mionix 3200 isn't recommended that much.

I would go with the optical A4tech. It should be a solid mouse as long as you stay on 400 or 1600 DPI and avoid the interpolated ones.

The Kone+/Kova+ is an average mouse. It's quite expensive and the sensors are meh.
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