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Well, Sunday night I was working on getting a better NB clock and started running a 3DMark 11 run. I walked off for second and game back to a black box. Figuring it just didn't like the voltage and hit the power button, and POP!!. I looked inside and everything looked fine, so I hit the power button again and got flash bang and FLAME!! This was the same rig in my sig. Most of what I've read said that mainly X6's had problems with the VRM's burning up while overclocking. Pics of the after math:
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This is the only one that turned out well. rolleyes.gif

Well, I finally got it pulled out and called MSI today. Even after telling them all the horror stories of these boards and explaining I didn't want to leave this thing folding one day and come home to a smoldering pile of a house, they said they have no upgrade path, or side grade path (going to Intel). So, it's pretty much a gamble as to whether or not the next one will do the same. It's pretty sad that a company would allow dangerously faulty components remain in use without so much as a warning, but to then tell them they have to take the chance with a second board, :/ . My voltages where all in the safe range and my CPU was only around 1.475 @ 4.0 so it wasn't even a hard push.

Needless to say, that was probably my last MSI product. The refurb will go straight to ebay. And my new UD5 will be here tomorrow (theoretically). As far as I can tell it has the best VRM's and performance on the market for the price.

If anybody know a way to get my data off of my RAID array from that chipset there would be some serious rep and possible money as a reward. LOL

Thanks for looking, hopefully this can help someone, or help bring this up to MSI that their product could be quite dangerous.
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You have too much power supply for the build. Anyways, you took a gamble with overclocking, and an even bigger gamble with a mid range motherboard. Voltage is not what kills VRMs, it is current, as in amperage.
Edited by Poisoner - 7/26/11 at 5:14pm
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What was the cpu-nb voltage?
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MSI is notorious for weak VRMs! I had a x58 board that popped while stressing
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I had the exact same thing happen with an MSI board (880G). When I overclocked my Athlon II X4 to 4 GHz (using 1.400V), the VRMs blew up after about 1 hour of Prime95.

It wasn't all bad, though. I ended up RMAing the board, selling the AMD setup, and got a 2500K instead.
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Originally Posted by konspiracy;14358386 
What was the cpu-nb voltage?
Can't say I remember off the top of my head. It was below MSI's "safe" voltage, and waaay below what I used on my M4N72-E.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poisoner;14358215 
You have too much power supply for the build. Anyways, you took a gamble with overclocking, and an even bigger gamble with a mid range motherboard. Voltage is not what kills VRMs, it is current, as in amperage.
As far as I know PSU's only produce power as needed, hence why the fans don't blast at high all the time. Not to sure what to say to that. lol
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Originally Posted by jamborhgini313;14358420 
MSI is notorious for weak VRMs! I had a x58 board that popped while stressing
Yep, I read the "horror stories" post less than a week ago. lol CURSED!!!
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Originally Posted by 996gt2;14358646 
I had the exact same thing happen with an MSI board (880G). When I overclocked my Athlon II X4 to 4 GHz (using 1.400V), the VRMs blew up after about 1 hour of Prime95.


It wasn't all bad, though. I ended up RMAing the board, selling the AMD setup, and got a 2500K instead.
Yep, apparently the lower costs isn't worth it. MSI wouldn't "side grade" me to an Intel setup, so this will just get ebay'd. I payed $190 for the UD5, could've bought an i7 for that much. Oh well.

Soooo, who wants to buy a refurbished MSI board?! tongue.gif
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Can you take a PIC OF THE BACK OF THE BOARD?
srry caps
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I hope MSI figures out how to properly make AMD Boards.
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ya but it looks like he had water cooling so i wonder if the vrms had any air flowing at all.
If there was just dead air things will get toasty.
I have my board at 1.45v with my unlocked 740 c2 and its done well over 24 hours of prime and so far a couple hours of folding. Although a have made sure that the heatsink is on really tight and I have really good airflow.
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Originally Posted by konspiracy;14360117 
Can you take a PIC OF THE BACK OF THE BOARD?
srry caps
No, unfortunately I have already sent it off. MSI also has no quick/cross ship option, and a 1 to 2 week turn around time. I need to get whatever they send me back and sold to help pay off the UD5. I can tell you the back of the board looked fine.
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I hope MSI figures out how to properly make AMD Boards.
I could care less at this point. My only concern is that nobody get's hurt if one of these goes up and flames while someone is asleep. I'm no chemist/engineer, so I don't really know if they will always go out on their own, or could possibly keep burning and spread. Not to mention the chemicals burning in all of that. The RV smelled AWFUL for a few hours after, luckily the air has been on.
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ya but it looks like he had water cooling so i wonder if the vrms had any air flowing at all.
If there was just dead air things will get toasty.
I have my board at 1.45v with my unlocked 740 c2 and its done well over 24 hours of prime and so far a couple hours of folding. Although a have made sure that the heatsink is on really tight and I have really good airflow.
I have it in an Antec 900 with a Tri-Cool on high on the door, and the original exhaust Tri-Cool pushing air in, and the Big Boy up top on high as well as my 240 pulling in air up front. There was plenty of air flow over everything. The part that blew up wasn't covered by a heat sink. The extra little kicker is I had just replaced all the OCZ freeze on my heat pipe with IC7. Not the VRM sink, though. I didn't feel like trying to mess with tiny amounts of IC7. lol
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