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How so..? How many home user need a $600 cpu ..? ninja.gif

More importantly, how many people here on OCN bought the 980X over the 970? I don't imagine many. VERY few people will spend upwards of $1000 for a CPU.
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What is the difference between APU and Graphics on-die than?
Isn't a APU a GPU+CPU on the same die or are you going to go that if it doesn't have dedicated Graphics RAM that isn't a APU. Well than I believe the solution to that problem is solved in a later generation - Ivy Bridge.

I said and I quote:


Where are you exactly getting this evidence that a unknown yet-to-be-release is slower by what you call "2x slower than a 6550D". Comparing AMD's A8-3850/3800 to Intel Ivy Bridge is quite bold statement when Intel hasn't release it yet. You could have said that Intel Sandy Bridge is slower than AMD 6550D but you had to say that is slower than Ivy Bridge.

Now for the Ivy Bridge I just with the current information that I am seeing is do a UEFI update and just pop-in new APU if I want to. Now for AMD's solution you would need to get FM2 motherboard if you want the next generation but that shouldn't be a problem as they are normally not that expensive.

Typo. 30%. 30% faster than SB is 2x slower than Llano. Google it.

And an APU is more than having the GPU on the die... it's hard to explain, it's basically having everything connected much more.
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What is the difference between APU and Graphics on-die than?

Isn't a APU a GPU+CPU on the same die or are you going to go that if it doesn't have dedicated Graphics RAM that isn't a APU. Well than I believe the solution to that problem is solved in a later generation - Ivy Bridge.



An APU doesn't have a video card etched along side the CPU in one die..! (ie: integrated graphics)

The core elements of both architectures are integrated throughout the chip, so they are no longer CPU & GPU, but one seamless heterogeneous APU. Sharing as much resources as possible.


Where have you been for the last year..??
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Originally Posted by Usario;14508244 
doh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gif

IPC does not increase from SB -> SB-E, the only single-threaded boost will be the extra cache (minimal)

And you think the 980X is faster in single threaded than the 2600k?

And those numbers are completely random, when I made a similar post I was referring to core scaling and clock speeds.

And guessing IPC based on absolutely nothing is a terrible idea

I hope this post was a joke I'm not getting

I was thinking the same thing about his post.

All SB and SB-E chips have the same IPC @ a given clock speed. Only difference is what the multipliers are and how many cores the chip has and whether or not it has hyperthreading (which I know lots don't care about, but for 3D rendering, it's a proven 20% boost).

Usario is also correct in saying that a $1000 CPU will not kill a $320 CPU. Completely different segments.

BMW doesn't stay afloat by relying on selling a ton of M5s (@ $100k+), they do it by selling armies of 325s ($30k+). The M5 exists for bragging rights and to show the world they can make a truly badass performance car...same reason the 990x and these new 3980x chips exist. Guarantee they represent a fraction of 1% of Intel's total sales. Acura doesn't sell less cars because the BMW M5 exists.
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Originally Posted by Usario;14508244 
doh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gifdoh.gif

IPC does not increase from SB -> SB-E, the only single-threaded boost will be the extra cache (minimal)

And you think the 980X is faster in single threaded than the 2600k?

And those numbers are completely random, when I made a similar post I was referring to core scaling and clock speeds.

And guessing IPC based on absolutely nothing is a terrible idea

I hope this post was a joke I'm not getting
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Originally Posted by kweechy;14508341 
I was thinking the same thing about his post.

All SB and SB-E chips have the same IPC @ a given clock speed. Only difference is what the multipliers are and how many cores the chip has and whether or not it has hyperthreading (which I know lots don't care about, but for 3D rendering, it's a proven 20% boost).
yes it was a joke,read the bottom,and guess who S is?
i took one of his posts and added intel to it to show how ridiculous it is:rolleyes:

iggydogg points:lachen:
Edited by iggydogg - 8/8/11 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by iggydogg;14508369 
yes it was a joke,read the bottom,and guess who S is?
i took one of his posts and added intel to it to show how ridiculous it is:rolleyes:

You talkin' bout Seronx? He always talks about architectural details he doesn't understand and insists BD isn't delayed; gives us AMD fans a bad name
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You talkin' bout Seronx? He always talks about architectural details he doesn't understand and insists BD isn't delayed; gives us AMD fans a bad name

bingo!!!

tell me about it,whatever you do dont google "bulldozer forum threads with Seronx"

i havent checked the actual heavy equipment ones but im sure he has posted in them as well:D
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Originally Posted by Usario;14508287 
More importantly, how many people here on OCN bought the 980X over the 970? I don't imagine many. VERY few people will spend upwards of $1000 for a CPU.



Typo. 30%. 30% faster than SB is 2x slower than Llano. Google it.

And an APU is more than having the GPU on the die... it's hard to explain, it's basically having everything connected much more.

Still judging a unrelease product with another product still quite sad.

Current solution with AMD A8-3850 (Radeon 6550D) vs Sandy Bridge (HD 3000) NOT Ivy Bridge vs AMD A8-3850.


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Originally Posted by formula m;14508338 
An APU doesn't have a video card etched along side the CPU in one die..! (ie: integrated graphics)

The core elements of both architectures are integrated throughout the chip, so they are no longer CPU & GPU, but one seamless heterogeneous APU. Sharing as much resources as possible.


Where have you been for the last year..??

The current AMD Llano requires the need of higher memory bandwidth so it isn't quite their yet. But next year-generation with Trinity should fix that.
Edited by wolf_08 - 8/8/11 at 10:52am
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this is just an homage to my fav funposter S

I actually didn't bother to read your post, are you sure you're not S? thinking.gif

'cuz if you're not, you nailed his ridiculous posting patterns.
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Not sure what you classify as "high performance" and the total power draw is what matters, not just voltage.

By high performance I meant stuff like handling high temps and high overclocks.
     
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