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Haha alright, so SysMark is garbage.

However, I've never looked at its results before and never based anything off them luckily.
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Right but the benchmarks I rely on aren't BAPco and in fact there are an absolute TON of benchmarks that are done in reviews that simply use random software to run tests.

Tom's for example will render things in 3D Studio Max, Blender, Cinema4D...then do tests like 7zip compression, After Effects rendering, etc, etc.

It's not humanly possible for Intel to be playing funny business with all of these benchmarks. If they were, you can be sure that random programmers would be putting together benchmarks specifically to favor AMD in the hopes of a nice Intel cheque.

All of these tests very conclusively show the same results. So whether or not BAPco is indeed in Intel's pocket (of which I don't think you truly have any substantive proof), the results of the collective benchmarks and software out there can't all be lying; and they all tend to show the same story.

I'm looking forward to AMD's future releases as much as even AMD fanboys are (hell, I've invested thousands in their stocks based on my Bulldozer/Interlagos math). But to deny that Ivy Bride is going to be a 10-20% IPC improvement when numerous benchmarking tests have shown it to be the case just seems a little absurd to me.

If you want to show me that it's not the case with hard numbers collected from ES chips, I'm all for eating my words...but show me. Don't just say so because it's your opinion.
Random benchmark is wholly different that a business benchmark suite... which doesn't preclude anything useful done within a business environement.

Windows 7 performs equally well on AMD, than it does on Intel... for business, that is about all u need to know.

For industry and computational work... both Intel & AMD have their places.


But to ignorantly refer to theoretical benchmarks(BAPCo), while their same rigs cannot even run Windows aero smoothly, while flipping through business apps..? Too funny!

Again, Intel's low budget cpu are good for home usage.. the more expensive ones are nothing other than heavily marketed ego chips. That do very little for home use.

So, if u are one of the people who tout Intel's $400+ cpus, then understand, that most people can recognise your actual lack of necessity & it is just more likely that you need to feel good about yourself. (Ie: intel has more ipc)

Because we all know Intel's $200 cpu can't run Windows & games... As nothing cheaper could/would do, right?

MoAr power pls... I need an ego boost. Ahh synthetics & BAPCo to the rescue...
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Because we all know Intel's $200 cpu can't run Windows & games... As nothing cheaper could/would do, right?

MoAr power pls... I need an ego boost. Ahh synthetics & BAPCo to the rescue...
I present to you a $220 Intel CPU that can't run Windows and Games.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

$179.99 if you live near a Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0354589

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I present to you a $220 Intel CPU that can't run Windows and Games.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

$179.99 if you live near a Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0354589

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's powerful enough to run Windows 3.1. I could be wrong though.
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Nope, I'm pretty sure it's powerful enough to run Windows 3.1. I could be wrong though.
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.... actually I was wrong. It's not even powerful enough to run DOS. lol
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.... actually I was wrong. It's not even powerful enough to run DOS. lol
I thought so, that's why I asked for proof.
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Random benchmark is wholly different that a business benchmark suite... which doesn't preclude anything useful done within a business environement.

Windows 7 performs equally well on AMD, than it does on Intel... for business, that is about all u need to know.

For industry and computational work... both Intel & AMD have their places.


But to ignorantly refer to theoretical benchmarks(BAPCo), while their same rigs cannot even run Windows aero smoothly, while flipping through business apps..? Too funny!

Again, Intel's low budget cpu are good for home usage.. the more expensive ones are nothing other than heavily marketed ego chips. That do very little for home use.

So, if u are one of the people who tout Intel's $400+ cpus, then understand, that most people can recognise your actual lack of necessity & it is just more likely that you need to feel good about yourself. (Ie: intel has more ipc)

Because we all know Intel's $200 cpu can't run Windows & games... As nothing cheaper could/would do, right?

MoAr power pls... I need an ego boost. Ahh synthetics & BAPCo to the rescue...
This is just getting ridiculous.

Nowhere did I make any mention of BAPCo benchmark results, SysMark, or ANYTHING of that nature.

FURTHERMORE, the Tom's test was done as an INTEL VS INTEL test (to show Ivy vs Sandy), AMD never even entered the equation. So even if they DID use SysMark (which they didn't) it wouldn't matter one bit because it's an apples to apples deal.

The Ivy Bridge showed a 10-20% increase in IPC. Generally closer to 10%.

They ran MANY benchmarks which showed that result, including business oriented benches.

I'm done with this now. I'm buying a quad Interlagos machine once the procs are released too, so I'm not even sure why you're frothing at me like I'm an Intel fanboy. I'm just a dude stating facts. Ivy is an IPC gain over Sandy.
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