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Hey fellas!

I know people usually look these "newbie"-threads down, and for a reason I guess. However, my previous rig decided break apart yesterday and I have huge LAN parties coming next week. Considering shipping and all, I pretty much *have to* order my new parts today.

So I'm in need for input on few things:

I have already decided that I'll take i5 2500K as my CPU.

ASUS P8P67 vs P8P67 Pro? What are the differences in practice besides one being for 8x/8x Crossfire/SLI and one not supporting those? Does P8P67 Pro overclock better or do they have any differences in BIOS (I wanna adjust everything to the finest!)?

XFX Core Edition 650W Pro? Does this look like a quality PSU? It's not modular and has lots of that EasyRailTM marketing hype, but besides that it should serve well?

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 2x4GB DDR3 1600 CL9 vs G.SKILL NQ 2x2GB DDR3 1600 CL9? They both are rated the same speeds, run on 1.5V and have the same latencies. X comes with good-looking heatspreaders, but are they better? Do you think Ripjaws-X will perform better (more OC) than the NQs to justify the around 30$ (in Finland) price difference?

Please note that I'm really on budget, that is, I have to spend all my savings and even lend some. I'm listing parts on different price ranges, so obviously one or other may be clearly better, but I'm looking for advice like "don't buy that crap, that's gonna cost more for ya than if you bought the better one in the first place".

ALL advice greatly appreciated!

Thanks, nvvit!
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post #2 of 14
Looks pretty good.
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Thanks for your reply.

Do you know if you can power multiple (four) case fans from one 4-pin PWM header on P8P67 Pro? Is that safe?

Or am I forced to buy a fan controller?
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post #4 of 14
G.SKILL Ripjaws X are optimized for sandy bridge

As for mobo its the same bios I would personally go with the pro.

Get a modular power supply if you show us the whole rig I can recommend what wattage you should get.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=216
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I woul buy the Pro version it has more overclocking options and supports both SLI/ CrossfireX. Both memory work, it doesnt matter if they are branded "optimized for sandy bridge " it doesnt effect performance, go with Ripjaws X. Dont plug more than two 12v fans to 1 board connetor its can cause instability specially when overclocking.
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Originally Posted by nvvit View Post
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 2x4GB DDR3 1600 CL9 vs G.SKILL NQ 2x2GB DDR3 1600 CL9? They both are rated the same speeds, run on 1.5V and have the same latencies. X comes with good-looking heatspreaders, but are they better? Do you think Ripjaws-X will perform better (more OC) than the NQs to justify the around 30$ (in Finland) price difference?
hi, you may be interested in reading this comparative test:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=29833

HTH
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post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hi!

I ended up ordering:

Asus P8P67 Pro
Intel i5 2500K
G. SKILL Ripjaws-X DDR3-1600 CL9
Bitfenix Shinobi
4x Arctic Cooling F12
Lamptron Fan Controller
Scythe Mugen 3 + Arctic MX-4 paste
Corsair HX-650W

Does that look like a solid(ish) build?

I'm still in need of GPU. Any recommendations? I guess it's either HD6850, HD6870 or HD6950. I'm a little bit worried if HD6850 could run all new games on max settings 1920x1200 flawlessy. HD6870 would be better, but I think it has worse price-performance ratio than either 6850 or 6950 (6x50 cards overclocked are nearly the same?). HD6950 would probably be a tiny bit too pricy for my budget.

I don't have that much selection over here in Finland, especially because it has to be in stock so I can get my hands on it ASAP. Twin Frozr would be a good bet, but really pricy (+ >50$). Are ASUS DirectCU (II) GPUs generally recognized good? They look like beasts, but I'm not sure if I could crossfire them later on if I wanted to (so bulky...)?
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post #8 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvvit View Post
Hi!

I ended up ordering:

Asus P8P67 Pro
Intel i5 2500K
G. SKILL Ripjaws-X DDR3-1600 CL9
Bitfenix Shinobi
4x Arctic Cooling F12
Lamptron Fan Controller
Scythe Mugen 3 + Arctic MX-4 paste
Corsair HX-650W

Does that look like a solid(ish) build?

I'm still in need of GPU. Any recommendations? I guess it's either HD6850, HD6870 or HD6950. I'm a little bit worried if HD6850 could run all new games on max settings 1920x1200 flawlessy. HD6870 would be better, but I think it has worse price-performance ratio than either 6850 or 6950 (6x50 cards overclocked are nearly the same?). HD6950 would probably be a tiny bit too pricy for my budget.

I don't have that much selection over here in Finland, especially because it has to be in stock so I can get my hands on it ASAP. Twin Frozr would be a good bet, but really pricy (+ >50$). Are ASUS DirectCU (II) GPUs generally recognized good? They look like beasts, but I'm not sure if I could crossfire them later on if I wanted to (so bulky...)?
Absolutely SOLID build.

For 1080p gaming, even a HD6870 / HD6950 1GB are going to struggle. The HD6850 will be even worse so at it. But if that's your options, then I'd just go for the strongest card you can afford. The 6950 is definitely worth its price increase, the 6870 is considerably faster than the 6850, and well...the 6850 is basically the lowest of the low you "should" be looking at this round.

You could also look into a GTX 460 1GB, GTX 560, GTX 470, GTX 560Ti (in order from least performance to most, probably the same with cost).

The Asus DirectCu coolers are amazing. Just as good as the Twin Frozr is.
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post #9 of 14
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Still considering the gfx card

I think I can't crossfire 2 of DirectCU II 2GB HD 6950s, because they're 3 slot cards each? There are also 2-slot DirectCU II HD 6950s (with 1GB memory). Are the 2-slot DirectCU II GPUs worse performing temperature-wise (and overclockability-wise) than 3 slot ones (I would imagine so, because the heatsink is obviously 1 slot less thick)?
Although, 2x HD 6950 would probably push my HX650W too far, don't you think so it could be out of the options altogether?

Is there still microstuttering widely experienced by those crossfiring 2x HD68xx? Considering I have Crossfire/SLI board, I could take advantage of buying one HD68xx series card now and one later on.

HD6870 is obviously better performing than HD6850, but I think HD6850 could have better price-performance-ratio, because it overclocks much more (I'm okay with overclocking the cards as long as temperatures and noise is fine)?

E: Sorry mate, accidentally misclicked and posted only part of the post
Edited by nvvit - 7/27/11 at 6:42am
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post #10 of 14
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Still considering the gfx card

I think I can't crossfire 2 of DirectCU II 2GB HD 6950s, because they're 3 slot cards each? There are also 2-slot DirectCU II HD 6950s (with
You can fit 3 slot cards in Crossfire / SLI on the P8P67 Pro.

But I'd look at the 2 slot cards anyway. They're a lot easier to fit in there, and still have expansion slot room for sound cards, wireless....whatever else.
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