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Yep setup written all over it.

Conspiracy to eliminate all comparisons with the Noctua.
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Considering these coolers are getting better and better it only makes sence for review sited to include a Custom Water Cooling Loop vs this vs High end Air Cooling with stock and then same fans.
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post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by cmeeks View Post
Also...

I'm well aware of the arguments against such, but I'm still eagerly waiting on a review that compares the coolers with identical fans. Otherwise, it's just a pi**ing contest between fans. I'm interested in the inherent cooling ability of the unit itself, not the fans it comes with.
In a perfect world, this would be one of the tests. The thing to remember is that some units are designed specifically for low airflow fans and don't increase performance as drastically with higher RPM fans, so what this type of review should do is show how a specific cooler scales with different fans.



That chart is an example of two different types of coolers, say, something like the NH-D14 which is optimized for lower airflow, and something like the H70, which was optimized for higher airflow.

These numbers are just for example, and not real. But they show how performance could scale with fan RPM.

If I ran my own review site, I'd test coolers with the following criteria:

1) Build a representative system of the "average" gaming platform, update it every 18-24 months. (Modern would be a 2500k @ 4+ GHz in a typical case, like a 400R)

2) Have a stable of two of each of three different speed fans. Two low-speed (~1000 RPM), two mid-range (~1800 RPM), and two high-speed (~2500+ RPM).

3) I'd test every cooler "out of the box" to show its relative performance/value, and then I'd test each one with the reference fans to show how the different designs scale.


The problem with this is that you're effectively testing each cooler at least 4 times, with 4 different fan configurations, and chances are, it'll take a lot longer than doing it the other way, and that every 18-24 months, all your data goes away and you have to start over.
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by BlackandDecker View Post
Yep setup written all over it.

Conspiracy to eliminate all comparisons with the Noctua.
HERP DE DERP!

Even though the Noctua NH-D14 performs similar, better, or worse than a closed water system (depending on which one), the water systems all have a few major advantages:

1) You can run tall RAM sticks without an issue.
2) More room for aftermarket MOSFET/VRM cooling.
3) Radiator can be mounted anywhere you like.
4) Most of the radiators are thinner and more compact than the D14.

I would have bought the D14 but it was going to cause problems with my RAM, and I am not going to give up my sexy, all black, 1600MHz 6-8-6-24, G.Skill PI sticks for anything in the entire world (except DDR4, and even then, I'll buy PI Black sticks)
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I would have bought the D14 but it was going to cause problems with my RAM, and I am not going to give up my sexy, all black, 1600MHz 6-8-6-24, G.Skill PI sticks for anything in the entire world (except DDR4, and even then, I'll buy PI Black sticks)
G.Skill Pi sticks will actually fit with a D14 in place. The clearance is tight, but it will fit with the front fan mounted slightly higher than stock.

Honestly, I think the whole RAM clearance issue with the D14 is blown way out of proportion. 95% of DIMMs are nowhere near as tall as G.Skill Pis, and even the tallest DIMMs like G.Skill Pis will still fit.

This guy had a D14 and the G.Skill Pis on an X58A-UD5:

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As for the heatspreaders and clearance, whew, it was tight. The bottom spreader fin is just nicking the heatspreader on the closest stick of ram, at the top and is less than a millimeter away from it at the bottom. Another mm or two wider and it would have been a no go or required some modifications of the spreader fins.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=668974
Edited by 996gt2 - 7/27/11 at 10:59am
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post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by 996gt2 View Post
G.Skill Pi sticks will actually fit with a D14 in place. The clearance is tight, but it will fit with the front fan mounted slightly higher than stock.

Honestly, I think the whole RAM clearance issue with the D14 is blown way out of proportion. 95% of DIMMs are nowhere near as tall as G.Skill Pis, and even the tallest DIMMs like G.Skill Pis will still fit.

This guy had a D14 and the G.Skill Pis on an X58A-UD5:



http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=668974
Intel or AMD mounted? The PI sticks are really for XMP but I bought them for the low timings. Different socket, different distance. Might not fit at all. Didn't want to risk it, but good point.
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"In doing the testing for the Corsair H80 the i7-930 CPU we had been using for the test system failed. We had to replace it with a new Core i7-930. In doing so we had to restart our charts. So there was some relation back to our old charts, until we can build the charts up again; I used the Corsair H60 and the Antec Kuhler H2O 920 for comparison."

Quoted from the article.
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Doesn't matter much in the long run.
As soon as a member gets their hands on an actual unit, we shall see where the proverbial bear does it's business.
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post #19 of 27
I already know that the H80 has all these space benifits over high end air coolers, however I still want to see how it compares with NH-D14 and Silver Arrow.
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Im waiting for the H95, it will blow this cooler out of the water!
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