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Please point me to your case study involving this statement. I would like to read it.

Or are you doing nothing more than stating your opinion as a fact?

To be blunt, you have no clue what you are talking about. Studies have been shown that the highest downloaders are also the highest spenders when it comes to physical media.

I know when I download a movie, if it's a good movie, I don't store it on my HDD. I go buy the physical copy of the blu-ray and watch it from the disk. It's going to be better quality, I don't care who ripped the blu-ray, straight off the disk is the way to go.

If it's some piece of crap two-bit low budget horribly written farce of a production, I delete it and I don't waste my money buying something I didn't want in the first place, but rather thought I wanted due to misleading trailers and or hype.
Perhaps you missed the part where I put " Just my opinion."

Some of you guys get way too defensive. Gee, I wonder why. I just keep it honest. To be blunt, I think you're lying through your fingers when you say you go out an purchase what you download.
 
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To be blunt, you have no clue what you are talking about. Studies have been shown that the highest downloaders are also the highest spenders when it comes to physical media.
They're also stealing more than non-pirates.

You cannot deny, you are a pirate. It's a very fine defense of a pirate to declare that they're trying before buying.

It stands to reason that if someone pirates a lot of music, then he or she similarly buys a lot of music (which is what many of these studies reinforce), but you cannot make the claim that a higher percentage of pirates buy music than of the population in general that don't pirate (which is how they're interpreted).

If I hear a song on the radio and walk into best buy and pick the album up. The sales to pirate ratio is: 1:0
If a pirate downloads a song, likes it, but never quite makes it to best buy (pirates ignore that this could happen in their fantasized "try before buy" model, the sales to pirate ratio is: 0:1

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Perhaps you missed the part where I put " Just my opinion."

Some of you guys get way too defensive. Gee, I wonder why. I just keep it honest. To be blunt, I think you're lying through your fingers when you say you go out an purchase what you download.
In my opinion, this is true.
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The only time anyone pays for something they've illegally obtained is when online content, like multiplayer, is disabled or unusable because it's a pirated copy of software.

No one does that with music. It doesn't make sense and people aren't that honest. Just my opinion.
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If you were a shop owner, and I walked into your store and stole 100 candy bars, for every 2 I purchased, whereas the next fella only purchased 1 candy bar every time he came in, would you make the claim that I was your best customer?
    
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There are no stolen or missing candy bars with filesharing. The candy bars are duplicated. Your analogy is flawed.
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lol, debate settled. Pictures of CDs on shelves. So even if you did download all of those prior to buying, you were still likely seeding ALL of them at some point, either while downloading or post facto. Guess who the RIAA and the like do after first?? Your pictures settle nothing.
 
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My dad actually paid for Limewire so he could download songs.
Reason?
No iTunes store in South Africa. Lame.
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lol, debate settled. Pictures of CDs on shelves. So even if you did download all of those prior to buying, you were still likely seeding ALL of them at some point, either while downloading or post facto. Guess who the RIAA and the like do after first?? Your pictures settle nothing.
That has nothing to do with what you said earlier:

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The only time anyone pays for something they've illegally obtained is when online content, like multiplayer, is disabled or unusable because it's a pirated copy of software.

No one does that with music. It doesn't make sense and people aren't that honest. Just my opinion.
Clearly not a true statement for everybody.

Also, maybe 2% of the music I listen to is on RIAA affiliated labels. Probably not even that much. I'm not worried.
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There are no stolen or missing candy bars with filesharing. The candy bars are duplicated. Your analogy is flawed.
This is outside the scope of the argument whether pirated content represents a lost sale.
    
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There are no stolen or missing candy bars with filesharing. The candy bars are duplicated. Your analogy is flawed.
This this this this +1 for understanding the fundamental difference
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