Originally Posted by ForumViewer
lol, debate settled. Pictures of CDs on shelves. So even if you did download all of those prior to buying, you were still likely seeding ALL of them at some point, either while downloading or post facto. Guess who the RIAA and the like do after first?? Your pictures settle nothing.
Interestingly enough, if you think about how seeding works (dependant on user's upload rate and downloader's download rate) The amount of an album that can be uploaded prior to download finishing is negligable when downloading an album of MP3s (and any other type of torrent). This is due to the fact that DL rates are more often than not higher, and substantially at that, than the UL rate.
This means that is quite likely, while you're DLing a 100MB album, that you'll only seed 1 or 2 songs (assuming 4MB per song) This also assumes you stop seeding immediatly after the DL finishes because most torrent programs require a seed connection while the DL is in progress.
Simply a statement of fact. I am not trying to disprove your claim or anything. I just thought that this is pertinant information.
Originally Posted by cdesewell
Your analogy should be I came to the store and bought 2 candy bars then went home and duplicated them 100 times and gave them out for free. Obviously its bad for your business but you cant lose a sale from something that you weren’t selling.
This is where the debate gets very grey because that analogy is also incorrect to an extent. It's incorrect because to duplicate a candy bar you have to put in labor and materials. Where as in file sharing, you simply put in the time to Download the file for your use and the torrent program takes care of the rest.
The reason it is correct is regarding "...you cant lose a sale from something that you weren’t selling." This is true, but wrong. Suppose you sell those candy bars and becuase you make them better than the original one that you bought (assuming same materials, labor and price) the only thing that changes is satifaction gained from eating your candy bar which is greater than your original purchase. Now suppose customer from the original candy shop hear of your better candy bar for the same price - he starts to lose sales.
The same can be said for filesharing, however, since you are not dealing with a medium that is physically present is can not be completely relevant. And becuase the analogy with the candy bar requires a purchase from every 'user', where filesharing does not.Edited by SI51 - 7/27/11 at 11:29am