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Originally Posted by Licht;14367149 
I've seen many people use piracy to demo content. Not all pirates are straight up pirates. And the only people I know who are straight up pirates don't have the money to buy the content anyways.

Bottom line : This situation is complicated and there is no one profile that fits all pirates. The only constant pattern I can really see is that poor people won't buy stuff. Go figure.

I've only seen the reverse in my own situation, I'm the only guy who comes from a very poor background in all my friends, and I'm almost the only one who still buys its movies and CDs, the richer my friend are, the sooner they had a PC and Internet and the sooner they began pirating all their content.

Its basically the same situation in my family, my close family is pretty poor too and so not very knowledgable when it comes to technology as they never had a lot of equipement, while my distant family which is a bit more wealthy has far more pirates, at least in the younger generations.
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Itunes is horrible especially those of us who don't have an ipod or iphone.

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Originally Posted by pwnernator;14367506 
go to youtube and listen to the song if you're not satisfied with the 30 second preview you lazy people

Waat? I don't even pirate music. -.-
    
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By some people's logic, just going on youtube and listening to the music would be considered pirating.

I'm not going to buy music if I can just listen to it on youtube. Then again, I don't listen to American music aside from oldies and jazz. And I can just listen to that on an online radio station for free.

I don't see people getting riled up over stuff like that (And I highly doubt many of those stations are 'legit'). Rarely do I hear advertising, I sure as hell don't on youtube with adblock plus.

It seems if some people had their way, you wouldn't hear any songs until you bought it. Then just getting a bum off the street to sing with autotune would make them millions. tongue.gif
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post #45 of 108
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Originally Posted by Eagle1337;14367702 
Itunes is horrible especially those of us who don't have an ipod or iphone.

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Most of the stuff (music at least) that you buy from iTunes now-a-days come in iTunes Plus format (DRM free, 256kbps AAC) and AAC works on almost any device and music manager. If not then you could always convert it. However, I never buy my music from iTunes. I am extremely picky when it comes to audio quality and I always buy the CDs, but mostly from the artists I enjoy. All the other "crap" I just listen to on the radio.
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post #46 of 108
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Originally Posted by Tatsuya;14367720 
By some people's logic, just going on youtube and listening to the music would be considered pirating.

I'm not going to buy music if I can just listen to it on youtube. Then again, I don't listen to American music aside from oldies and jazz. And I can just listen to that on an online radio station for free.

I don't see people getting riled up over stuff like that (And I highly doubt many of those stations are 'legit'). Rarely do I hear advertising, I sure as hell don't on youtube with adblock plus.

It seems if some people had their way, you wouldn't hear any songs until you bought it. That way, they don't have to try and sell crap for cash. tongue.gif

Those videos are funded by advertisements. VEVO has 90% of the music videos. If it's on youtube for more than a couple months, it is legal.

Posting content on youtube for critique in the comments section is considered "fair use". Furthermore, VEVO has licenses. If you want the song or album on your mobile device, then buy it. The only way I see around this is using the playlist option on a phone. But generally the song quality is better when you purchase it.
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Originally Posted by pwnernator;14367752 
Those videos are funded by advertisements. VEVO has 90% of the music videos. If it's on youtube for more than a couple months, it is legal.

Posting content on youtube for critique in the comments section is considered "fair use". Furthermore, VEVO has licenses. If you want the song or album on your mobile device, then buy it. The only way I see around this is using the playlist option on a phone. But generally the song quality is better when you purchase it.

I'd like to know where the 'advertisements' are... I never see (OR hear) any. tongue.gif
post #48 of 108
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Originally Posted by Tatsuya;14367784 
I'd like to know where the 'advertisements' are... I never see (OR hear) any. tongue.gif

Normally noobs see advertisements.
post #49 of 108
I see both sides of the argument.

I employ 12 interns...

10 of them "test" then buy...They're jacked into several Torrent sites daily over their Iphones, downloading hordes of movies etc onto their home servers (I think I teach them too much)...They "test" the content, if they like it, they buy it, if they don't, it's discarded anyway.

I know 2 of them have spent over 5k on Itunes alone...So, I can/do believe that SOME of those that torrent DO pirate said content on the basis of "testing" it.

Being an Admin I also see a tremendous amount of the opposite...Some people are just too "poor" to afford mainstream media and rely on torrents to view/listen to/enjoy that content...I'd almost guarentee you there's a correlation to our economy to the amount of people pirating but, I have nothing to prove that beyond analytics.

The TLDR is, I think you're all correct in some form/fashion but, there are absolutely HORDES of people whom only pirate to test content and then go "honestly" purchase that media.
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