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Holy s*** that's a big a** sub, what model is it?
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What I don't get is why so many people seem to think that the RIAA should have the ability to dictate law to the entire world.
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if only they had music at 9216 kbits/sec for 2channel and 27648 kbits/sec for 5.1... it'd be worth it
I hope that's an exaggeration, since Blu-ray HD Audio codecs are usually 3-4 Mbps, even for Disney Pixar's 7.1 mixes. 9Mbps - DVD video bitrate/ 27 Mbps - Blu-ray video bitrate. A CD FLAC/WAV is usually 700 kbps - 1.1 Mbps. Or if you really wanted, 96/24 tracks would be several times the size of a CD FLAC, so unless you had a couple TBs for songs only, that option is kinda impractical. http://www.tweakheadz.com/16_vs_24_bit_audio.htm


Also, I hate when people say, make movies/music that is good and I'll buy it. If it isn't good enough to listen to, why bother pirating it? Might as well listen to it on Youtube.

IMO, try-before-you-buy doesn't work for music, since Youtube has pretty much every single song made by man, and if you can't find it there, all it takes is a quick Google search. Movies and games, sure, but music? Not when its on Youtube for free. And how was this guy able to profile LimeWire users and also track their purchases on iTunes?


Edited by Eugenester - 7/27/11 at 4:42pm
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I can see the truth in this. I myself have downloaded music to check it out before buying it. I have plenty of store bought CD's that I first downloaded files to check them out. If I liked them I would buy them.
Simple reason behind this is that no matter how good of a download it is or digital file from iTunes... it isn't going to sound as good as a CD. I didn't spend a small fortune on audio equipment just to listen to static filled files.

In fact, I have every CD that Blue October has released so far. All purchased from Best Buy. I first heard their music via mp3 files that a friend downloaded. I liked what I heard.

Same thing can be said about movies. I have watched downloaded files of movies and then gone out and bought them on Blu Ray because I liked it. Not saying that all pirates do that... but I can see a lot more of them doing than some would believe.

Maybe if they would let you return media if you didn't like it this wouldn't be an issue... but that would also lead to plenty of other issues.
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There is a TON of music out there that isn't on youtube...and like I said before, music on youtube sounds terrible

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What I don't get is why so many people seem to think that the RIAA should have the ability to dictate law to the entire world.
I know, right?
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I know people who pirate games like mad and they also have over 100 games on their steam account. So ya I'd believe this.
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Interestingly enough, if you think about how seeding works (dependant on user's upload rate and downloader's download rate) The amount of an album that can be uploaded prior to download finishing is negligable when downloading an album of MP3s (and any other type of torrent). This is due to the fact that DL rates are more often than not higher, and substantially at that, than the UL rate.

This means that is quite likely, while you're DLing a 100MB album, that you'll only seed 1 or 2 songs (assuming 4MB per song) This also assumes you stop seeding immediatly after the DL finishes because most torrent programs require a seed connection while the DL is in progress.

Simply a statement of fact. I am not trying to disprove your claim or anything. I just thought that this is pertinant information.



This is where the debate gets very grey because that analogy is also incorrect to an extent. It's incorrect because to duplicate a candy bar you have to put in labor and materials. Where as in file sharing, you simply put in the time to Download the file for your use and the torrent program takes care of the rest.

The reason it is correct is regarding "...you cant lose a sale from something that you weren’t selling." This is true, but wrong. Suppose you sell those candy bars and becuase you make them better than the original one that you bought (assuming same materials, labor and price) the only thing that changes is satifaction gained from eating your candy bar which is greater than your original purchase. Now suppose customer from the original candy shop hear of your better candy bar for the same price - he starts to lose sales.

The same can be said for filesharing, however, since you are not dealing with a medium that is physically present is can not be completely relevant. And becuase the analogy with the candy bar requires a purchase from every 'user', where filesharing does not.
I think we are saying the same thing I completely agree that it is lost/bad for business but not specifically lost sales. The key differences being that duplicating digital products is easier than stealing digital products where as in the physical world stealing is much easier than duplicating. The laws/definitions in place don’t account for this its treats the digital world the same as the physical one and thus the law system fails.
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I hope that's an exaggeration, since Blu-ray HD Audio codecs are usually 3-4 Mbps, even for Disney Pixar's 7.1 mixes. 9Mbps - DVD video bitrate/ 27 Mbps - Blu-ray video bitrate. A CD FLAC/WAV is usually 700 kbps - 1.1 Mbps. Or if you really wanted, 96/24 tracks would be several times the size of a CD FLAC, so unless you had a couple TBs for songs only, that option is kinda impractical. http://www.tweakheadz.com/16_vs_24_bit_audio.htm


Also, I hate when people say, make movies/music that is good and I'll buy it. If it isn't good enough to listen to, why bother pirating it? Might as well listen to it on Youtube.

IMO, try-before-you-buy doesn't work for music, since Youtube has pretty much every single song made by man, and if you can't find it there, all it takes is a quick Google search. Movies and games, sure, but music? Not when its on Youtube for free. And how was this guy able to profile LimeWire users and also track their purchases on iTunes?

oh I meant 24/192
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McDonald's is a pirate. $1 for a large coke when it only costs them about 5 cents.... damn leechers.

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I know I buy more cd's than any of my friends....


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Yeah...storage media.
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