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Can you please provide me the link for the ESX? what about the ESXI? i learned that from version 5 ESX is not relevant anymore.
ESX is the old version; I believe 3.5 or 4.0 and on is ESXi (and ESXi is 64 bit only).
    
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ESXI training?

Get a spare computer, slap it on, have fun!

ESXi is free for the basic version, so grab it, setup some servers, maybe try setting up a windows domain, with a linux router or something. I guess you could dick around with Openfire, but W/LAMP servers aren't that big a deal, or that important in regards to ESXi training.

The advanced features are only available with vsphere, so you are a bit constrained and can't vmotion storage or vm's, but at least you can work with vdisk's and best practices.
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This.

I learned ESXi by using it, on-the-job. The only resource I had was this book:



I now manage several VMWare servers, and just set up a VCenter server to manage them from a single point.

One other thing: If you don't use VCenter, you'll want a copy of VMWare Converter so you can capture live systems as virtual machines, or create a template VM which you can copy repeatedly so you don't have to install each VM from scratch.
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ESX is the old version; I believe 3.5 or 4.0 and on is ESXi (and ESXi is 64 bit only).
Correct, though there was an ESX 3.5 alongside of ESXi. VMWare is dropping development of ESX, and concentrating solely on ESXi. The current version of ESXi is 4.1.

ESXi 5 is in development, but it looks like VMWare may change the licensing scheme/pricing drastically for larger enterprise environments. That has the potential to cause some customers to switch over to HyperV; it could be an interesting future.
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ESXi 5 is in development, but it looks like VMWare may change the licensing scheme/pricing drastically for larger enterprise environments. That has the potential to cause some customers to switch over to HyperV; it could be an interesting future.
Haven't heard much about ESXi 5, mostly just the complaints about Vsphere 5 and the licensing changes. Fortunately the servers I handle are in the 40-50GB RAM levels, so we shouldn't be seeing increases.

Though VMware updated the lisencing prices again just a few days ago to make the 90GB range of RAM range more affordable. Sadly I cannot for the life of me find that article again!

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^^^
This.

I learned ESXi by using it, on-the-job. The only resource I had was this book:



I now manage several VMWare servers, and just set up a VCenter server to manage them from a single point.

One other thing: If you don't use VCenter, you'll want a copy of VMWare Converter so you can capture live systems as virtual machines, or create a template VM which you can copy repeatedly so you don't have to install each VM from scratch.
Forgot about Converter; it is definately handy for deploying "golden image" VM's. For 12 of the servers I had to deploy I had to use Converter, and it is quite a bit more annoying then to just use VMware's more advanced tools to deploy real VM templates.
    
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Being and IT major, My best advice for learning software is, get a computer dedicated to that software, or use a virtual machine.
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Haven't heard much about ESXi 5, mostly just the complaints about Vsphere 5 and the licensing changes. Fortunately the servers I handle are in the 40-50GB RAM levels, so we shouldn't be seeing increases.

Though VMware updated the lisencing prices again just a few days ago to make the 90GB range of RAM range more affordable. Sadly I cannot for the life of me find that article again!

Forgot about Converter; it is definately handy for deploying "golden image" VM's. For 12 of the servers I had to deploy I had to use Converter, and it is quite a bit more annoying then to just use VMware's more advanced tools to deploy real VM templates.
My servers are in the 24GB of RAM range, so it won't affect me either. It's mainly going to hurt large enterprise.

Yeah, Converter is quite useful. Now I just have to learn a little about VMotion, so I can be prepared to do live transfers of VMs in case of a problem.
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I think both Train Signal and CBT Nuggets have a DVD series on VMware.I asked a Student Aid Foundation at my school if they could help me with the price on some tutorial DVD's and they said "give us a got to have and a wish list". Well the wish list was a bit over 3000.00 and the got to have was about 700.00 so they bought me the Active Directory series from Train Signal and the Linux Intermediate/Advanced from CBT Nuggets,not bragging at all, I was just about floored when they made the offer.I seem to like working with Windows based servers better but there is no getting around the fact you must know the Linux end also.Getting near the end of school and I sure hope (just like everyone probably) that there are even beginner jobs offered (gotta pass that CCNA).I would not like to end up at Best Buy.
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I think both Train Signal and CBT Nuggets have a DVD series on VMware.I asked a Student Aid Foundation at my school if they could help me with the price on some tutorial DVD's and they said "give us a got to have and a wish list". Well the wish list was a bit over 3000.00 and the got to have was about 700.00 so they bought me the Active Directory series from Train Signal and the Linux Intermediate/Advanced from CBT Nuggets,not bragging at all, I was just about floored when they made the offer.I seem to like working with Windows based servers better but there is no getting around the fact you must know the Linux end also.Getting near the end of school and I sure hope (just like everyone probably) that there are even beginner jobs offered (gotta pass that CCNA).I would not like to end up at Best Buy.
I got two Core 2 duo computers with 4 gb each and installed on one of them ESXi , right now its in 60 days trail so i could use all its full features. second computer is dedicated to open file storage called Openfiler. installed VMclient on my LT and with the train signal video i learn things. lets hope it will be enough.
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zorg,are you saying you got a 60 day trial with Train Signal (that would be great) or is the 60 day with ESXi? If the 60 day is with ESXi what plan do you have with Train Signal?
Have you ever put together a "wish list" of tutorial DVD's and then added up the price,man it gets expensive. I have the Train Signal CCNA DVD, NetworkCompTIA DVD, SecurityComTIA DVD,A freebie Server 2008 DVD that is pretty good and a bunch of labs from CISCO that you get when you buy the book. I made a Amazon "wish list" and that was about 300.00 (I could have kept on going also).
These Train signal DVD's are usually300-400 each and I would really like to get the Server 2008 full course for 997.00 (well I really would like to get it for free)Then there is the Adobe CS5.5 Master Suite that I need and that is going to cost 450 or so from Diskovery. I already have my Cisco switching book (and lab book) for this year,the Linux book was pretty cheap (used off Amazon) but the Active Directory book is 125.00 and it comes with 3 CD's so you must go to the college bookstore to get it. One thing I do appreciate is the ability to go to the CISCO Alumni website and go over and over the material I have alraedy done.Boy I sure do need a subnetting coach.

EDIT: I really think I would be better off if I applied all the money I paid towards tution at college towards the DVD's I want.
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zorg,are you saying you got a 60 day trial with Train Signal (that would be great) or is the 60 day with ESXi? If the 60 day is with ESXi what plan do you have with Train Signal?
Have you ever put together a "wish list" of tutorial DVD's and then added up the price,man it gets expensive. I have the Train Signal CCNA DVD, NetworkCompTIA DVD, SecurityComTIA DVD,A freebie Server 2008 DVD that is pretty good and a bunch of labs from CISCO that you get when you buy the book. I made a Amazon "wish list" and that was about 300.00 (I could have kept on going also).
These Train signal DVD's are usually300-400 each and I would really like to get the Server 2008 full course for 997.00 (well I really would like to get it for free)Then there is the Adobe CS5.5 Master Suite that I need and that is going to cost 450 or so from Diskovery. I already have my Cisco switching book (and lab book) for this year,the Linux book was pretty cheap (used off Amazon) but the Active Directory book is 125.00 and it comes with 3 CD's so you must go to the college bookstore to get it. One thing I do appreciate is the ability to go to the CISCO Alumni website and go over and over the material I have alraedy done.Boy I sure do need a subnetting coach.

EDIT: I really think I would be better off if I applied all the money I paid towards tution at college towards the DVD's I want.

Hi ,

the train signal videos i got from a friend so i wont worry... what i need to to have the ability to train myself on the minimal stuff and more so when i could apply to a job i could have a knowledge on what they talking about and start .
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