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You can only get 'commando lunged' from behind. If someone knifes you from behind that's fair game. However if someone tries to knife you from the front they wont kill you instantly unless you're already at like 10% hp.
Still...lunging from 20 feet away to stab is kinda pissing me off...

But...im assuming it's a lag issue...
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Well, in the PC version you could just type to each squad or look at an objective and press Q. What I normally do is sit in vent with all my friends, we'll split into squads and just go from there. Would rarely communicate with other squads, as they are usually being productive like ours. What I believe is happening is as I mentioned. Nobody to play with, and nobody will listen to randoms in chat typing stuff.

Clan servers are a huge thing on BC2. Clans always work together and such, putting up a good fight. As I usually got a good group of friends in ventrillo dealing out our own damage in squads. As it comes back down to closed Alpha. I've not made any friends on BC3 yet, because well.. Nobody wants to type! Who does? I don't blame them lol. I believe that once the game launches and clan servers come up and everyone can play, the teamwork aspect will peak out about where it should be without a commander roll. Everyone will be playing with there better halves. Teamwork.
Thanks for clearing that up, there are no clan servers on console versions and i am aware of ventrillo and such but i like communicating with everyone how do u plan on making new friends if you cant talk to them? or cuss out the lazy squads. COD does excel at this i must say, I really hope they decide to bring back the commander or communication tree
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I thought we weren't supposed to be discussing this?
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so mad, my nephew got an invite and he just got BC2 and not even lvl 12. I been playing since BF1942 and didnt get anything.

Maybe they are focusing on a newbie crowd for this game
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Still...lunging from 20 feet away to stab is kinda pissing me off...

But...im assuming it's a lag issue...
It's a lag issue. You have to literally be behind someone for the knife animation to start.
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I really want to enjoy this alpha i just cant help to think they have completely sold out to the console crowd, and having no commander small squads, 3d positioning, and lack of social features are really goin to keep this game from reaching its full potential, i really want to trash talk between rounds and be able to talk to the whole team not just my squad, i dont know its early i guess but im bored already with it, feels like im just playing with bots. It does nothing to encourage teamplay almost all of the matches are ending in the first section because everyone is camping back....
Sold out to the console crowd? 3D spotting is in the PC version of BC2. And ti works fine and isn't broken like the one in the alpha.
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Plz go to page 51 of this thread and watch the video, then ull know why peoples complain about the spotting, i dont even feel the need to explain too much just watch that video and tell us what you think. Not because something is ok in a game mean its okay for another game.
Screw that video. It shows a bug. A bug that will be fixed. You shouldn't be able to spot through trees like that. That's fine. Once that's fixed, the 3D spotting is fixed.

Oh, I also personally reported the video to EA for breaching the NDA. I hope whoever posted it loses their EA account.
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You don't say?

Destruction in Frostbite 1.5 was high. I guess that means that it has to be the exact same for Frostbite 2.0 as well? Or maybe it should be tweaked to suit BF3 given the fact that BF3 is a different game to BC2? Lets ask DICE.

Grenade spam was in BF2. By your logic, anyone who complains about grenade spam in BF3 (if it becomes popular) is simply a whiner because it was present in BF2......is that really even logic?

Regardless, if you actually read the guys post you'd see that what you just typed is pretty much meaningless, given the fact that he blatantly acknowledged its existence in another game (which is obviously BC2) in his last sentence.




Source?

Proof?

This "bug" you speak of has been a "feature" of BC2 since launch.
Heh, if you want to seem like a spoilt baby that's fine.

This. Is. Battlefield 3. Made by DICE. Who have taken everything they've learnt from BC2 and piled into this game.

Firstly, blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge. The 3D spotting in BF3 is BROKEN. It doens't work as it should. For instance, I was about to spot someone running behind some cover, I hit Q and then, directly above the person I was looking at, 3 people lit up that I couldn't even see, my team mates killed them and I got spotting points for that. That's BROKEN. When it;s fixed, that WON'T HAPPEN. When it's fixed, people won't be able to hide in a bush spamming Q and spotting people they can't even see.

That's the problem people on the Alpha forums are presenting, except what they REALLY mean to do is continue the moaning and creating over 3D spotting in BC2. Because they whinged about that as well. Calling it a wallhack and a cheat then. Well, screw those people. The game clearly wasn't made for them.

3D spotting isn't going ANYWHERE, so cancel your game now. Or, shut up.

But hey, I'm not going to even bother attempting to argue with you, Grizzleboy, because I remember last time. It's like slamming your head off a brick wall.

So, in closing, yes, bad DICE, sorry they didn't reskin BF2 and push that out of the door. Ops, they made a game from the ground up and took everything they've learnt in the last 6 years making successful games (Mirrors Edge, BC2, etc) and put it into this game.


















For anyone else who wants to know what the game is like, but doens't want to put up with a load of pissing and moaning? It's looking really good. It's an Alpha version, so of course there are lots of bugs and crashes at the moment, which is to be expected. I think a lot of you will be happy when the Open Beta arrives. I hope for the sake of us all that by that time, a lot of the moaning people from the Alpha have left/refused to play/dropped down dead. That way, we can enjoy the game and report bugs, performance issues and crashes to the development team so that they can be on top of it.

DICE: next time you do this, when people find a bug and instead breach your NDA and moan about it for a week? Why don't you kick them off the game and give the invites to someone else and see if they play ball any better?
    
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The web site server browser thing seems down.. So I take it the Alpha is over.. I was hoping it would go till tonight. ??
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I thought we weren't supposed to be discussing this?
We're not, but the only thing that's my saving grace is that I have nothing but positive things to say on this. Not that it makes it any different from negative things, but yeah.

Anyway, no-one should listen to the whole 3D spotting rubbish. It'll be staying for the final version. Anyone you see moaning or creating about it is just a word I'll get in trouble for saying publicly on the forums. It's not going to be gone for the final version. There may be some servers with it turned off, but judging form BC2, those will be very few and far between.

I hope DICE don't include an option to filter it out for all the pissing and moaning these people have VERY UNNECESSARILY done. I say that because it's a damn bug in the feature. The responsible and decent thing to do is to report it to DICE so they can fix it. Instead all these idiots have done is moan, create and carry on about it. Threatening to cancel preorders and starting insulting anyone who doesn't agree with them on the forums. It's really sad that we had to share with these people.
    
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Sold out to the console crowd? 3D spotting is in the PC version of BC2. And ti works fine and isn't broken like the one in the alpha.

Screw that video. It shows a bug. A bug that will be fixed. You shouldn't be able to spot through trees like that. That's fine. Once that's fixed, the 3D spotting is fixed.

Oh, I also personally reported the video to EA for breaching the NDA. I hope whoever posted it loses their EA account.


Heh, if you want to seem like a spoilt baby that's fine.

This. Is. Battlefield 3. Made by DICE. Who have taken everything they've learnt from BC2 and piled into this game.

Firstly, blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge. The 3D spotting in BF3 is BROKEN. It doens't work as it should. For instance, I was about to spot someone running behind some cover, I hit Q and then, directly above the person I was looking at, 3 people lit up that I couldn't even see, my team mates killed them and I got spotting points for that. That's BROKEN. When it;s fixed, that WON'T HAPPEN. When it's fixed, people won't be able to hide in a bush spamming Q and spotting people they can't even see.

That's the problem people on the Alpha forums are presenting, except what they REALLY mean to do is continue the moaning and creating over 3D spotting in BC2. Because they whinged about that as well. Calling it a wallhack and a cheat then. Well, screw those people. The game clearly wasn't made for them.

3D spotting isn't going ANYWHERE, so cancel your game now. Or, shut up.

But hey, I'm not going to even bother attempting to argue with you, Grizzleboy, because I remember last time. It's like slamming your head off a brick wall.

So, in closing, yes, bad DICE, sorry they didn't reskin BF2 and push that out of the door. Ops, they made a game from the ground up and took everything they've learnt in the last 6 years making successful games (Mirrors Edge, BC2, etc) and put it into this game.


















For anyone else who wants to know what the game is like, but doens't want to put up with a load of pissing and moaning? It's looking really good. It's an Alpha version, so of course there are lots of bugs and crashes at the moment, which is to be expected. I think a lot of you will be happy when the Open Beta arrives. I hope for the sake of us all that by that time, a lot of the moaning people from the Alpha have left/refused to play/dropped down dead. That way, we can enjoy the game and report bugs, performance issues and crashes to the development team so that they can be on top of it.

DICE: next time you do this, when people find a bug and instead breach your NDA and moan about it for a week? Why don't you kick them off the game and give the invites to someone else and see if they play ball any better?
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Sold out to the console crowd? 3D spotting is in the PC version of BC2. And ti works fine and isn't broken like the one in the alpha.

Screw that video. It shows a bug. A bug that will be fixed. You shouldn't be able to spot through trees like that. That's fine. Once that's fixed, the 3D spotting is fixed.

Oh, I also personally reported the video to EA for breaching the NDA. I hope whoever posted it loses their EA account.


Heh, if you want to seem like a spoilt baby that's fine.

This. Is. Battlefield 3. Made by DICE. Who have taken everything they've learnt from BC2 and piled into this game.

Firstly, blah blah blah whinge whinge whinge. The 3D spotting in BF3 is BROKEN. It doens't work as it should. For instance, I was about to spot someone running behind some cover, I hit Q and then, directly above the person I was looking at, 3 people lit up that I couldn't even see, my team mates killed them and I got spotting points for that. That's BROKEN. When it;s fixed, that WON'T HAPPEN. When it's fixed, people won't be able to hide in a bush spamming Q and spotting people they can't even see.

That's the problem people on the Alpha forums are presenting, except what they REALLY mean to do is continue the moaning and creating over 3D spotting in BC2. Because they whinged about that as well. Calling it a wallhack and a cheat then. Well, screw those people. The game clearly wasn't made for them.

3D spotting isn't going ANYWHERE, so cancel your game now. Or, shut up.

But hey, I'm not going to even bother attempting to argue with you, Grizzleboy, because I remember last time. It's like slamming your head off a brick wall.

So, in closing, yes, bad DICE, sorry they didn't reskin BF2 and push that out of the door. Ops, they made a game from the ground up and took everything they've learnt in the last 6 years making successful games (Mirrors Edge, BC2, etc) and put it into this game.
Except that people CAN and DO sit in bushes shooting and killing people......which is where this WHOLE argument started. You can spot a whole load of enemies with one Q press in BC2 aswell.

I wonder if you have actually played BC2 lol.

Its not a NEW problem.

It ALREADY existed in BC2 and people have campaigned against it SINCE BC2 launched. People are just upset that it managed to find its way into a new game that is supposed to be different from BC2.

Also, your failure to comprehend situations or context knows no bounds.

Lets put it this way.

A person camps near an MCOM holding an M249 in a bush with a clear line of fire to the MCOM area.

All they have to do to make it hard for the enemy to arm the MCOM is have people spotting the enemies.

They can just wait for orange triangles and fire away. They never need to see the enemy. They never need to reveal themselves. All they have to do is lie in a bush and fire at the orange triangles.

The worst part about this is that IT HAPPENS IN BC2 ASWELL so for you to call it a bug ruins any kind of credibility you could ever have.

You seem to be unable to comprehend that spotting can and is, also done by team mates, so any team mate that spots an enemy going towards the MCOM will create a nice orange triangle for you to fire at. You can watch the triangle jump, dive and run, but you never see who you're firing at. Even if YOU cant spot out of the bushes, you will STILL get triangles to fire at.

Its not even like you could say "well its like on the Battlefield where soldiers share positional data of enemies" or whatever because as I will have to point out to you once more, YOU CANT SEE OUT OF THE BUSH.

For you to DEFEND this kind of thing and to be totally OBLIVIOUS to the fact that it ALREADY EXISTS in BC2 as a "feature" and not a "bug" that will be "fixed"....it just goes to show how worthless your opinion on this matter is because once again, you fail to understand simple concepts and would rather spend much of your posting defaming character or putting words in peoples mouths and then arguing with them about the words you put in their mouths.


Or maybe you wont try and argue with me about cancelling my order in your next post since I never actually said I would or even mentioned anything to do with 3D spotting affecting my purchase etc. Or will you be looking to put words in my mouth again just to have something to say?


Here's some more irony and hypocrisy for you to consider:

-You consider people being able to spot people they cant see a "bug"

-Yet you consider people being able to accurately track,shoot at and kill people they cant see a "feature" that is valid simply because it existed in Bad Company 2.

And some more:

-You constantly told me to stop commenting my opinion in the "boycott BF3" thread simply because I didn't agree with the boycott. Your reasoning was that I should leave the thread as my opinion being different meant the thread was irrelevant to me and that you couldn't stand people coming into threads to discuss things that were irrelevant to them.

-In that thread you said you arent even interested in buying Battlefield 3 in an attempt to rebutt an argument I made towards your reasoning for supporting the boycott (which will obviously be unveiled to be a blatant lie after BF3 launches and you buy the game), yet here you are in a thread full of people who ARE interested in buying BF3 after its released. Surely this thread is "irrelevant" to your interests given that you dont even want to buy/play Battlefield 3.

But then you do want to play Battlefield 3 because you made an effort to play the alpha.

But then you dont actually care because you wont buy the game anyway.

But then you do care because you are in your own words an avid Battlefield game supporter and have been reporting bugs like a good alpha tester.

But then you dont care because you wont be buying Battlefield 3 anyway.........


You can only laugh. Your lack of understand towards simple concepts and hypocritical posting knows no boundaries. No wonder you feel like you're banging your head against a wall when we converse, what with all the common sense and logic I use.


Never mind though. I think I'll leave you on ignore from now on.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 8/1/11 at 6:06am
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