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Hi guys, sorry if this isn't the right section, just as am building an Intel system i thought here was best, anyway, here's what am thinking of getting.

Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Sandy Bridge
Asus P8P67 Rev3, Intel P67
2GB Asus HD 6950
8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet 1600MHz
60GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s
Akasa Venom Ultra Performance CPU Cooler
Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced Dominator
750W XFX Black Edition, Modular

Ok, so as you can see i have gone for the i5 2500K & P8P67 combo which, by review and benchmarks looks like the most popular atm. But i am starting to wonder if i should be looking at the Z68? I know its only SSD Cache and iGPU and 1 or 2 other little things, but is there, or should i say, "will i" get any kind of performance boost on the z68 chip than the p67? Am guessing a no?

The P8P67 Rev3 is £112 @ Scan
The P8Z68-V is £129 @ Scan

Should i just get the new model for £17 more? Or is the p67 actually a better performer.

This setup is pretty much what am looking at now. Should be able to get the i5 to 4.0 easy on that board i would think.

I have heard some say though the P8P67-LE are bad OCers, is this just the LE version or are the entire P67 range bad? I cant see them being bad at all by the reviews! maybe they mean because its the LE version they cant take the K CPU therefore no OCing? Is that right?

Am sorry if this is a lot, am really new to the i5, i7 scene and its a lot to take in. Hope you can answer my questions people. Thank you.
Edited by Steev08 - 7/27/11 at 5:06pm
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I personally went for the Z68 when I built my system 2 weeks ago. I know it's not very likely, but if you're from the US and live near a Micro Center you may want to consider purchasing your CPU and motherboard from them. The 2500k is only $179 and you get $40 off any motherboard when purchased together (deal was good 2 weeks ago, it may still be good now). They also sell it online but their online site is usually sold out.

EDIT: Just checked, it still is.
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Hello nezzarix, thank you for your response, i should have said, am from the UK mate, so Scan.co.uk, Overclockers.co.uk ect is what i will be using.

I see you have the Z68-V Pro, can you please tell me if their is any difference between the V and V PRO? The V is more in my price range as we speak so ideally if i was to get the Z68 it would be just the V. Would this be just as well for OCing compared to the PRO?

Thank you again for your time.
Edited by Steev08 - 7/27/11 at 5:23pm
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If your not going to use the extra features that (lucid virtu and ssd caching) then just get the P67.

The difference between the V and the V Pro is the GPU support, V does only Crossfire whereas the V pro doe both Crossfie and SLI

I would highly recommend getting the Asus P8P67 Pro, it's the most popular 1155 mobo here on OCN and its awesome


Z68 Chipset



P67


EDIT: Apologies I thought the difference between p8p67 and p8p67p pro would be the same for the Z68 versions. My mistake.


Looking at the table it doesn't seem like there is much difference between the V and the V PRO just the sata ports and audio.
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Overall, they are pretty similar. The V pro has 2 extra Sata 6GB ports and unlike the V pro, the V doesn't have firewire. Also, the V pro supports Bluetooth 3 while the V only supports 2.1. The V pro has a few extra features such as iGPU boost.

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Thank you munaim1 that helps, saved them pictures

The P67-PRO is only £20 more than the standard i will most likely get that as it as 2 x16 PCI-E slots for XFIRE if i wanted another card.

P67-PRO V Z68 PRO, mmm, about £15 difference.

1 more thing guys, i have watch a few videos on the "auto OC" on the new UEFI ASUS Bios, 1 where he got 4.4GHz straight from the run. I'm thinking of doing the same, am not looking to massively OC the CPU just to whatever the Auto will do for me, if it does 4.4GHz then that's what i will keep it as lol. Doing this, i want to disable the turbo but leave speedstep on, will this be fine?

Thank you guys and promise i wont bug your brains no more lol

Edit, no worries Munaim1 i was confused then lol.

So it seems like a toss up between the 2, the 2 Pros, i don't know because theirs only £15-£20 difference, but the P67 from what i hear is a proven success or do i go for the newer MB...
Edited by Steev08 - 7/27/11 at 5:54pm
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Thank you munaim1 that helps, saved them pictures

1 thing though, you say the only difference between the V & V-PRO is the GPU support ( V (XFIRE only) but on the picture is shows that the Z58 & Z68-PRO both do XFIRE/SLI?
lol made a mistake there, edited the above post.

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Anyway, as the P67-PRO is only £20 more than the standard i will most likely get that as it as 2 x16 PCI-E slots for XFIRE if i wanted another card.
The Asus P8P67 Pro is a very very good choice, you won't be disapointed.

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1 more thing guys, i have watch a few videos on the "auto OC" on the new UEFI ASUS Bios, 1 where he got 4.4GHz straight from the run. I'm thinking of doing the same, am not looking to massively OC the CPU just to whatever the Auto will do for me, if it does 4.4GHz then that's what i will keep it as lol. Doing this, i want to disable the turbo but leave speedstep on, will this be fine?

I have learnt a lot from these guides, give them a read and before you no it you'll be a sandybridge guru

P67 Sandy Bridge Overclocking Guide For Beginners ASUS Mobo

The ULTIMATE Sandy Bridge OC Guide (Gigabyte Mobo - Awesome thread, special thanks to sin)

Official ASUS P8P67 Series Overclocking Guide and Information JJ @ ASUS

P67/Z68 BIOS Guide - BASIC~Intermediate Overclocking Raja @ ASUS

MSI P67 Overclocking Guide Great Read for MSI users.




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Thank you guys and promise i wont bug your brains no more lol
No worries we are more than happy to help
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Thank you, had a quick look through it, not to much as its late here, basically, 100 "FSB" as it was, 100x 45 = 4500mhz, simples. lol, will read more on the vcore these take nearer the time.

What i think i will do though when i 1st set it up is turn off speedstep and turbo, Auto OC, see what i get, do a stability test, if its fine then start abusing it with games lol. Like i say am not after the 5.0GHz OC super low temps, low vcore ect. just a nice boost OC somewhere round 4.0-4.3GHz which i do think is easily doable on the Auto setting.
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What ASUS 6950 2GB card are you getting? I would recommend the MSI Twin Frozr III. I have it and it runs like a dream. Great performance in BC2 on ultra settings, and you'll never hear it.

It's on Newegg for $280 after MIR.
    
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What ASUS 6950 2GB card are you getting? I would recommend the MSI Twin Frozr III. I have it and it runs like a dream. Great performance in BC2 on ultra settings, and you'll never hear it.

It's on Newegg for $280 after MIR.
Hiya kDubya, Am not getting any atm, its just their as a rough idea of what i want, the brand is purely optional still at this stage But it was this 1.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-a...vi-displayport

But i think you have this 1?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-m...mhz-1408-cores

Just noticed, on the Z68 picture is says the RAM will run at such-a-speed as default, if i bought this ram..

8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet 1600MHz

Be just fine running at 1600 out of the box, should need no OC as its not an OC speed. Only thing i need to do really is timings?

As for GFX, Will the 6950 OC be well or would i be best going for say the MSI 1280MB GeForce GTX570 OC? Its about £40 more than the same Twin Frozr iii model.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280m...shader-1540mhz

am leaning more to the 6950 though, only see about 5 fps difference in benchmarks and that to me doesn't justify paying £40, specially when the OC 6950 could be OCed to get the extra 5 or so FPS lol. I read now though, that there's a "lock" with these cards? You have to unlock the bios or something to up the shaders, don't think i will do this at all lol, can i use the CCC to do a little OC boost like i did with my 4890 or do i HAVE to do this unlock in order to get the little OC?
Edited by Steev08 - 7/28/11 at 3:39am
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