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To start off I'm sorry I'm posting about this, and are probably tired of these threads, but I need your guys help here. I've never built a computer(Sig Rig is brothers old rig) and I'm going to being building on soon(next month or so.)

My main uses for a computer would be for gaming, and then the everyday things I.E. music, browsing. I don't have a cold hard budget yet, but it would be under $300 most likely all I need is a CPU/MOBO/RAM.

Other info: I would not be buying a GPU until probably Christmas time.

So my question to you guys would be should I go the APU route or get a PH II 955?

Why I would go the APU route is because I would be able to play games as soon as I get it, and not have to wait. And it would be something new and different for my first build.

Why I would go the 955 route is because you can find very cheap combo deals on here, when BD comes out PH II will go down. And I would get a GPU later on.

I'm stuck right now. Both choices have their +'s and -'s.

I'm just asking for your opinion on this.

THANKS!
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Edited by IcyPimpHand - 7/27/11 at 6:35pm
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Will you be using your 1400x900 sig monitor? If so then I say go APU. You will not be able to max out everything but you will be able to play nearly all games at good frame rates. Make sure you get at least 1600MHz RAM as Llano needs bandwidth.

If you find you need more GPU power then you can add a 6670 (~$75) in crossfire. Also Llano gets nice gains when OCing (actually undervolting and overclocking is recommended).

EDIT:

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http://www.brightsideofnews.com/default.aspx (undervolting for less heat and power draw)
http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-C...ng-Performance (great overclocker)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1652/7/ (big FPS drop off with 1333MHz ram so get at least 1600MHz)
Edited by JCPUser - 7/27/11 at 7:30pm
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If you do dual graphics with a supported card, you would be good.
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Will you be using your 1400x900 sig monitor? If so then I say go APU. You will not be able to max out everything but you will be able to play nearly all games at good frame rates. Make sure you get at least 1600MHz RAM as Llano needs bandwidth.

If you find you need more GPU power then you can add a 6670 (~$75) in crossfire. Also Llano gets nice gains when OCing (actually undervolting and overclocking is recommended).

EDIT:

Some links.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/default.aspx (undervolting for less heat and power draw)
http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-C...ng-Performance (great overclocker)
EDIT: I guess I should be more specific. I would like to being playing on high on most games. I would keep this monitor for a long time. At least till next summer. So I would be playing at 1440x900.
Edited by IcyPimpHand - 7/27/11 at 7:37pm
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But if I get a 1080p monitor later on, I should go the 955 route?
Even in hybrid crossfire (APU+6670), I wouldn't recommend Llano to anybody with a screen larger than 1680x1050.

EDIT: At 1400x900 llano should be able to pull off high just fine... unless you are playing really demanding games like Metro or Witcher 2. With that said, you probably can't use tons (8x+) of AA and high settings at the same time.
Edited by JCPUser - 7/27/11 at 7:40pm
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Even in hybrid crossfire (APU+6670), I wouldn't recommend Llano to anybody with a screen larger than 1680x1050.
So get the 955, and be done with it? Since I would upgrade to 1080p, and I would get better FPS with a dedicated GPU.
Edited by IcyPimpHand - 7/27/11 at 7:44pm
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So get the 955, and be done with it? Since I would upgrade to 1080p, and I would get better FPS with a dedicated GPU.
The 955 costs a bit more... but the boards are cheaper and the RAM might be cheaper because 1333MHz is just fine.

Personally, I would go with 955 and a cheapish 9XX chipset/AM3+ board to give you the option of dropping in bulldozer in a year or two.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.679669

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
MSI 880GM-E43 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231311

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

in total cost 308$

i think that is really worth it.. ^.^
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whats your gpu budget outside of that ? imo 400 is the magic number for mobo,processor, and ram.
Edited by duox - 7/27/11 at 8:09pm
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i think that is really worth it.. ^.^
That's a nice deal. But I don't have the money right now. It'll be a few more paychecks.


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whats your gpu budget outside of that ? imo 400 is the magic number for mobo,processor, and ram.
I have no idea on that. I'd figure I'd just get a EVGA 460 from their B-stock, they are $100 now. And I don't have 400 to spend. Hopefully I'll have $300
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