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Not really, I heard Apple cards run on some EFI and not the regular VGABIOS.
Not even close to true. It's just a custom VGABIOS that tells the mac "IM AN APPLE FRIENDLY CARD, DURRRR". They are literally the same cards.
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YES! If you know that you're about to be screwed, and you voluntarily allow yourself to get screwed, then you screwed yourself. Apple had nothing to do with it.
You didn't even answer my question

So basically you're giving companies the go on screwing over consumers? Man, I'm glad you're not the head of a major business or something.

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That $2700 system does NOT include monitor. Box only. For an Apple Cinema panel add another $1000+tax.
Really?

Silly Apple.
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You didn't even answer my question

So basically you're giving companies the go on screwing over consumers? Man, I'm glad you're not the head of a major business or something.
Uninformed consumers. Uninformed is the key word here. Don't misquote me please, and I'll do you the same courtesy. I did answer your question, in fact, but here, I'll answer it again.

An adult consumer who makes a thousands-dollar purchase without knowing anything about the product s/he is purchasing except what the sales rep tells him/her moments before the sale is making a conscious decision to spend a heck of a lot of money on something that s/he knows very little about. There is no "screwing" going on here, except to say that the consumer is screwing him/herself. Apple isn't lying to this person. Apple is not misrepresenting their product.

You and I know that they are charging a large percentage over market value for the components, but the Apple consumer either doesn't care and is willing to pay for the brand, or doesn't know that s/he can get the equivalent product cheaper. And again, if a consumer is willing to spend 1-2-3 thousand dollars on a product that s/he has done zero research on, that is in no way the fault of the seller.

Caveat Emptor, my friend. Any grown adult who doesn't know that deserves what they get.
Edited by flyingsaucers - 7/30/11 at 4:15pm
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Uninformed consumers. Uninformed is the key word here. Don't misquote me please, and I'll do you the same courtesy. I did answer your question, in fact, but here, I'll answer it again.

An adult consumer who makes a thousands-dollar purchase without knowing anything about the product s/he is purchasing except what the sales rep tells him/her moments before the sale is making a conscious decision to spend a heck of a lot of money on something that s/he knows very little about. There is no "screwing" going on here, except to say that the consumer is screwing him/herself. Apple isn't lying to this person. Apple is not misrepresenting their product.

You and I know that they are charging a large percentage over market value for the components, but the Apple consumer either doesn't care and is willing to pay for the brand, or doesn't know that s/he can get the equivalent product cheaper. And again, if a consumer is willing to spend 1-2-3 thousand dollars on a product that s/he has done zero research on, that is in no way the fault of the seller.

Caveat Emptor, my friend. Any grown adult who doesn't know that deserves what they get.
Have to agree with this.
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3 GB's of RAM....

Here goes the Kool-Aid...
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Uninformed consumers. Uninformed is the key word here. Don't misquote me please, and I'll do you the same courtesy. I did answer your question, in fact, but here, I'll answer it again.

An adult consumer who makes a thousands-dollar purchase without knowing anything about the product s/he is purchasing except what the sales rep tells him/her moments before the sale is making a conscious decision to spend a heck of a lot of money on something that s/he knows very little about. There is no "screwing" going on here, except to say that the consumer is screwing him/herself. Apple isn't lying to this person. Apple is not misrepresenting their product.

You and I know that they are charging a large percentage over market value for the components, but the Apple consumer either doesn't care and is willing to pay for the brand, or doesn't know that s/he can get the equivalent product cheaper. And again, if a consumer is willing to spend 1-2-3 thousand dollars on a product that s/he has done zero research on, that is in no way the fault of the seller.

Caveat Emptor, my friend. Any grown adult who doesn't know that deserves what they get.
I didn't misquote you

Apple might not be misrepresenting their product. However, they're overcharging people for hardware. Which is shady, IMO.

You know what, I honestly don't care. People are going to continue buying Apple's Macs because they want to. They don't care what we have to say. They'll do it regardless.
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All this moaning about a company which has more disposable cash than the US Government.

They must be doing something right.
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Its not exactly outdated or old hardware either.

Plenty of Dell, HP, Asus, Acer, Toshiba etc laptops out there with older hardware still being flogged at overinflated prices.
Uhh.. lets stop defending apple, for 2700 dollars you can build a rig that has the latest everything. Plus it would be atleast twice as fast
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But I do use a Mac as my main computer (non-intensive workloads). You do pay a premium, but the OS is amazing.
Weak argument OS X Lion runs fine on my sig rig
I'm sure you will say it's illegal. It is (I think?), but I paid OS X Lion (used xMove to move it on my USB pendrive).



What Apple computers are worth to me are the MacBook Pros. Unibody aluminium, long-life battery, amazing product.
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Apple has a monopoly on their OS, and that's why they are able to charge so much for their products. They make 100% profit on almost every product they produce, because when you step back and look at it, they don't really have a direct competitor on the same platform. Until the Intel processors got thrown in them, there was no real way to compare the performance between a PC and a Mac, only between PC's and between Macs. Even now with the Intel processors people claim that OSX is faster, somehow. I certainly didn't notice a difference, maybe too many people use infested Windows machines.

From a business standpoint, this is the position you want to be in. Their products are unique simply because they don't sell their OS outside of the computers they "build." This is why their OS' are so locked down, if the average Joe could go out and buy a PC for 1/4 of the price, then pay $30 for OSX, how many people do you think would pay the $2700 for the pretty case?

From an ease-of-use standpoint, I don't actually consider OSX to be easier to use than Windows. It's different, and it has it's own problems, and in some places I feel that they way over-simplified the process to a point of making more advanced functions more difficult, but some people like that because they don't ever use the advanced functions. The only argument to date that I really agree with in the OSX over Windows is that OSX doesn't have the malware and virus problems that Windows has. On Windows, you can't mindlessly browse the web and download things, you have to pay attention to what you're doing. That alone is worth it to people, however I don't know how long that is going to last (the MacDefender malware is a good example of this).

I also find the service and support argument interesting, as I find it to be the exact same as many of the other big companies when the product is in warranty. In most situations, I've had the option to fix a defective product, or have a refurbished one sent to me (yes, the phones you receive from the Genius Bar at Apple are refurbished, even if they are in a pretty new box). Often people will pay even more for Applecare, which is similar to what other companies offer. I guess what's funny to me, is how that shiny image Apple has affects the consumer's perception of the product and service.

So I guess what people should ask themselves is, this:
Is the Operating System worth $1500 to me?
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