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Originally Posted by compuman145 View Post
I doubt they will get much smaller on a silicon fabrication tbh. They have a new way for fabricating Graphine which you can print circuits on and then run electric current over... Also, it can be a few molocules thick
Graphene won't be avaliable cheaply for 1-2 more decades.... and the technology to fab them will not be ready for at least a decade after that.


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Computers are going to get crazy once chip manufacturers hit the physical size limit. They'll have to start making larger and larger chips to increase performance. A hundred years from now your CPU will be the size of a refrigerator, packed with like 10^30 transistors containing only a dozen atoms each.
Individual CPUs that big would have to account for huge propagation delay and power consumption.

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Originally Posted by Doomtomb View Post
I'm confident in Intel's abilities and resources but I think 10nm is the end of the road for silicon. Reliability of electrical signal transmission is already becoming a concern these days.
Silicon is good down till around 1nm... the current UV photolithography may encounter before then.

Reliability of electrical signal transmission has been a concern for decades now... there are techniques to counter it and error correction.
Edited by DuckieHo - 7/28/11 at 8:02am
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Dont you guys agree that 2018 is too damn long? If it takes 7 years to make such smaller processors, then where is 1nm left at?
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impressive innovation from intel..

Skylake and skymont, i like.
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post #14 of 45
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Graphene won't be avaliable cheaply for 1-2 more decades.... and the technology to fab them will not be ready for at least a decade after that.
What happens until then? 28nm is most likely hard to manufacture,10nm would have terrible yields.
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impressive innovation from intel..

Skylake and skymont, i like.
Intel's naming scheme is kinda weird.
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Dont you guys agree that 2018 is too damn long? If it takes 7 years to make such smaller processors, then where is 1nm left at?
How do we know ARM processors won't take over x86 in 7 years?
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/28/11 at 8:00am
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What happens until then? 28nm is most likely hard to manufacture,10nm would have terrible yields.
All processes begin with low yields and eventually ramp up.


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Intel's naming scheme is kinda weird.
The codenames are based off of towns near R&D sites.

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How do we know ARM processors won't take over x86 in 7 years?
That has nothing to do with anything since ARM CPUs are manufactured on shrinking nodes as well.
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Intel, stop now! Your costing me too much money!
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Intel, stop now! Your costing me too much money!
I think statements like this just encourage them
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10nm is already pushing "a couple molecules thick." Quantum tunnelling becomes a huge problem as processes get smaller. We're getting close to the lithographic ceiling.
Atoms are much smaller than 10nm, they're closer to 0.1nm, which means 10nm is roughly 100 atoms thick.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/MichaelPhillip.shtml
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Guys , i have no idea what the ghell you re all talking about, either u re doing copy paste or your intelligences are way above mke lol, all those weird words haha, either way this thread is such crazy hight level for me ,i cant take it, seriously! Cya
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post #20 of 45
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10nm is already pushing "a couple molecules thick." Quantum tunnelling becomes a huge problem as processes get smaller. We're getting close to the lithographic ceiling.
Yep...

They said this about 65nm
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