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I have a feeling that the 8-core bulldozer might be even faster then a 2500k in gaming even if it was slightly slower IPC. Why? Because bulldozer's arch allows it to use 2 of it's cores for a single thread. So even if one core is 25% slower then a 2500k, two cores will be used for that single thread boosting it's performance. How much will it boost it's performance? We shall see.
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I have a feeling that the 8-core bulldozer might be even faster then a 2500k in gaming even if it was slightly slower IPC. Why? Because bulldozer's arch allows it to use 2 of it's cores for a single thread. So even if one core is 25% slower then a 2500k, two cores will be used for that single thread boosting it's performance. How much will it boost it's performance? We shall see.
Are you talking about the 256-bit FPU being able to handle two 128-bit tasks at once?

Because I'm pretty sure you can't have both integer cores run one thread
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IPC increases.

Bulldozer has up to eight integer cores (two integer cores in each module sharing the fetch/decode stage). Each integer core contains four pipelines, each accompanied by a certain type of execution unit. Two execution units are simply referred to by AMD as "execution units". They're mainly ALUs (arithmetic logic units) but they also do some other stuff. Then the two other execution units are ALGUs, which have a simple ALU and also an AGU (address generation unit).

If anybody reading this doesn't understand the point of what I said up there: Bulldozer will have IPC comparable to or better than that of Nehalem (it depends on the efficiency of the execution units and pipelines, which we don't know much about yet... it could very well exceed the IPC of Sandy Bridge, which also has four pipelines per core). This is an entire new architecture, designed from the ground up. It's the first major change in AMD's architecture since the Athlon 64 eight years ago. It cannot be judged based on AMD's current performance.
This is exactly what I was saying a few pages back...I just did not feel like actually posting any information and instead told everyone to go and read. All speculation on Bulldozer performance is exactly that, speculation. Nobody to date has seen this type of architecture in action and cannot say anything about its performance. It is in no way related to any chip currently out in the market.
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I probably won't be able to afford more than the FX6XXX, hoping that drops in around what the Thuban's were, at around £150.

Woulda been nice to have an 8-core for when I'm rendering and the likes, but as long as the performance is there compared to Thuban/Deneb, a very OC-able Hexa will do me just fine I reckon.
 
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Price doesn't mean a thing.

I'd take the I3 over the X4. Why? Because it'll do 4.6Ghz quite easily.
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So I shouldn't open the 2600k sitting on my desk?
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decent price...but until i see benches and performance im not sure. i currently have the 1075 6 core and im very happy with it. I never really push it anyways, so not sure if upgrading would be worth it right now. I really want to upgrade my graphics card first...so that might be my big purchase, the 6870's are looking good and i can crossfire them with my currenty 4870.

Price isnt terrible actually for the 8 cores, but then i also see they are planning a 10 core next year so i might hold off and skip this one....i jumped the gun on my last 2 builds so...lol might hold off

we shall see....im starting to drool...
You should make a video and post it in a thread here when you try that.
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I probably won't be able to afford more than the FX6XXX, hoping that drops in around what the Thuban's were, at around £150.

Woulda been nice to have an 8-core for when I'm rendering and the likes, but as long as the performance is there compared to Thuban/Deneb, a very OC-able Hexa will do me just fine I reckon.
Exactly what I'm planning to do, get an 6 core.
Also the tri cores could potentially perform better in single threaded apps then the 4,6,8 cores. 4 modules -> 1 disabled, 1 core on each remaining module disabled.
Each core would then have all the cache and other shared parts from the module.

Actually, the same would be for the quads. 1 core on each module disabled. But the hexa's would just have 1 module disabled.
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You should make a video and post it in a thread here when you try that.
Yeah, definitely. It must work so well.
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decent price...but until i see benches and performance im not sure. i currently have the 1075 6 core and im very happy with it. I never really push it anyways, so not sure if upgrading would be worth it right now. I really want to upgrade my graphics card first...so that might be my big purchase, the 6870's are looking good and i can crossfire them with my currenty 4870.

Price isnt terrible actually for the 8 cores, but then i also see they are planning a 10 core next year so i might hold off and skip this one....i jumped the gun on my last 2 builds so...lol might hold off

we shall see....im starting to drool...
u can crossFire 6870 and 4870?
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