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No, all of your eight threads are less than 70% of a real core.
Actually yea, good point.
    
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No, more like 60% in FPU-intensive workloads and 90% in integer based workloads. And remember that because of this "module" design we're able to get all eight cores.

It scales better though, because Bulldozer is really quad-module. The extra integer cores only add ~20% to the die size anyway... that's much faster than just one extra "full" core.



Another person with no knowledge of the microarchitecture trying to make performance estimates...
Excuse me but AMD hasnt had a Competing chip with intels top tier since the old fx chips. and that was at least 5-6 years ago.

When they release bulldozer, it will not compete with intels top tier still. It will not perform on the level of sandy bridge e.

So I might not be very familiar with specifics about microarchotectures, but AMD has without a doubt lost the fastest chip race awhile ago and have yet to come close to intel.

So, don't tell me because nothing comes close on the amd side that is as fast as a 2600k or 990x.
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Excuse me but AMD hasnt had a Competing chip with intels top tier since the old fx chips. and that was at least 5-6 years ago.
So, what, do you think AMD is going to be behind forever or something?
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Any news on pricing about the new 4 cores (4100??) being released along with the BD?
    
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I'm sorry but all of those threads aren't cores.

So an SB-E wouldn't?


What does Llano have to do with Bulldozer?
Llano has some features and tweaks that PHII doesn't have,Llano has more L2 cache than PHII,however no L3 to make room for the graphics core,cramming a Athlon II core with a real graphics chip onto one die would be anything but easy.
Anyone buying any cpu either amd or intel, based entirely on a game is just wrong.
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Like many have said before. If the 8150 is priced under the 2600K it obviously doesn't deliver the same performance as it. There is no way Amd would price the 8150 under the 2600K if it was faster unless they were complete idiots.

IMO the 8170 will be 330+ because it will have a high clock speed that allows it to be faster then a 2600K.

I hope these can hit 4.5Ghz+ on water. I need a new toy to play with.
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Actually gaming is one of the areas Intel currently excels the most, due to a huge IPC advantage and the fact that most games do not utilize more 2-4 cores.
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How do you figure? Intel has ruled gaming since 2006 when the C2D was released.
Ooops. Someone didnt read all of my post. Go back and you will see I said AMD had competitive gaming cpu's compared to Intel for much less money.

As for the top post, you are talking about now with Sandy Bridge cpus on the market. Since BD is not out yet to compete with SB, and I was speculating that BD better come strong to do so, so I was not talking about SB. Obviously SB cpus have upped the ante. I was talking about pre SB. For gaming I would have much rather bought a PHII X4 cpu and board for 250-300 over a I5 or I7 and board for 350-500.
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So, what, do you think AMD is going to be behind forever or something?
No I was saying and needs to step up their game or yes they will consistently stay behind.

Now I'm not intel cannot I've owned both amd and intel. Only reason why I have an intel rig right now is due to when i bought it it was the best performing machine available.

I'd purchase another and rig in the future but it has to be able to compete.
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No I was saying and needs to step up their game or yes they will consistently stay behind.

Now I'm not intel cannot I've owned both amd and intel. Only reason why I have an intel rig right now is due to when i bought it it was the best performing machine available.

I'd purchase another and rig in the future but it has to be able to compete.
How do you know that AMD aren't stepping up their game with Bulldozer? You seem sure it isn't going to compete.
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