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Excuse me but AMD hasnt had a Competing chip with intels top tier since the old fx chips. and that was at least 5-6 years ago.

When they release bulldozer, it will not compete with intels top tier still. It will not perform on the level of sandy bridge e.

So I might not be very familiar with specifics about microarchotectures, but AMD has without a doubt lost the fastest chip race awhile ago and have yet to come close to intel.

So, don't tell me because nothing comes close on the amd side that is as fast as a 2600k or 990x.
A $300 chip obviously will not compete with a <$600 one. AMD can care less about SB-E. SB-E isn't even that much different that SB,just raise the multiplier,give it the SUPER 1337 AWESOME EPIC PLUS 9001 DIVIDED BY ZERO EXTREME EDITION name that somehow justifies them charging $400 more for essentially the same chip.
Even though AMD lost the high end performance crown,they still rule the mainstream market,which makes up of over 80% of PC sales,also lower priced stuff sells more.
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Anyone buying any cpu either amd or intel, based entirely on a game is just wrong.
Is that what a lot on OCN do though? My CPU rocks at games,AMD sucks at gaming,this CPU is great for games,this "bottlenecks" me in games,my dual core is better than your quad core for games,I need a 5Gh processor and 3 GPU's for games. games games games. So many assume all everyone uses their computer for is games.
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So, what, do you think AMD is going to be behind forever or something?
With Intel creating a monopoly,most likely.
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/29/11 at 11:40am
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Excuse me but AMD hasnt had a Competing chip with intels top tier since the old fx chips. and that was at least 5-6 years ago.

When they release bulldozer, it will not compete with intels top tier still. It will not perform on the level of sandy bridge e.

So I might not be very familiar with specifics about microarchotectures, but AMD has without a doubt lost the fastest chip race awhile ago and have yet to come close to intel.

So, don't tell me because nothing comes close on the amd side that is as fast as a 2600k or 990x.
If AMD made it before, why on earth wouldn't they be able to make it again? It's a completely new arch. From the ground up.

I could've said the same about Intel during the Pentium 4 era, it would've been just as untrue. Please do your research.

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4.5Ghz turbo is 4 cores not 8.
No. It's more like 5 GHz for four cores.
Edited by Usario - 7/29/11 at 11:40am
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No. It's more like 5 GHz for four cores.
And ofcourse you know this because you've seen it right?
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And ofcourse you know this because you've seen it right?
And of course you know it'll be 4.5 GHz turbo because you've seen it right?

When you post a rumor as fact, and then someone responds with another rumor, and then you say that they're wrong because it's just a rumor, you're a hypocrite.
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And of course you know it'll be 4.5 GHz turbo because you've seen it right?

When you post a rumor as fact, and then someone responds with another rumor, and then you say that they're wrong because it's just a rumor, you're a hypocrite.
But you're allowed to state that his rumor is wrong, based on your rumor? Look in the mirror next time you're slinging the hypocrite label.
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Hey everyone look, two women cat fighting.

RAWR!!!

On a serious note, stop your bickering or the thread will be shut down. (not if it already has.)
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But you're allowed to state that his rumor is wrong, based on your rumor? Look in the mirror next time you're slinging the hypocrite label.
The rumor that says 4.5 GHz says it's for all cores. And AMD has said ~500 MHz Turbo on all cores.

So he *is* wrong, unless he's taking some rumor that no one here has ever heard of before that claims AMD lied to us.
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Your right a single Bulldozer Core is the same as a quarter of a single Intel Core.

Huh?

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Why would they price it them same if it did not perform the same if not better? That would be dumb on their part because then everyone would buy a 2600k.
Whilst I agree with what your saying in principle,you have to factor in that AMD motherboards are cheaper. Plus many user's can drop a BD straight in their old board, unlike an SB buyer.

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Like many have said before. If the 8150 is priced under the 2600K it obviously doesn't deliver the same performance as it. There is no way Amd would price the 8150 under the 2600K if it was faster unless they were complete idiots.

IMO the 8170 will be 330+ because it will have a high clock speed that allows it to be faster then a 2600K.

I hope these can hit 4.5Ghz+ on water. I need a new toy to play with.
Not if they wanted to gain extra market share, and effectively "kill" Sandy Bridge sales to all but the most die hard Intel fanboys.

If BD can't do 4.5Ghz on air, easily, then they've really messed up. A 45nm Thuban will do 4.2Ghz stable without much trouble on air, so a 32nm High-k metal gate BD should have no trouble with 4.5Ghz.

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But you're allowed to state that his rumor is wrong, based on your rumor? Look in the mirror next time you're slinging the hypocrite label.
His rumour is based on AMD blog facts though, that's the difference. AMD stated 500Mhz Turbo on 16 cores, and higher on less cores, it doesn't take a genius to work out the possibilities.
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The rumor that says 4.5 GHz says it's for all cores. And AMD has said ~500 MHz Turbo on all cores.

So he *is* wrong, unless he's taking some rumor that no one here has ever heard of before that claims AMD lied to us.
You're assuming that you know the exact base clock. And where are you even getting those quotes from? Those comments you attacked aren't even in this thread.

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His rumour is based on AMD blog facts though, that's the difference. AMD stated 500Mhz Turbo on 16 cores, and higher on less cores, it doesn't take a genius to work out the possibilities.
A rumor is a rumor is a rumor. Do we know the exact base clock? Do we know that AMD won't use a different turbo frequency than they originally had said? You can't say until it's actually released.
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Originally Posted by Iceman23 View Post
You're assuming that you know the exact base clock. And where are you even getting those quotes from? Those comments you attacked aren't even in this thread.
Apparently you don't understand. The widely accepted rumor is that AMD's FX-8170 will come with a clock of 3.9 GHz and can turbo up to 4.5 GHz on all cores. Another widely accepted rumor shows what is supposedly a leaked AMD slide saying that Bulldozer will be able to Turbo in excess of 1 GHz when half of the cores are disabled. And AMD themselves have said that Bulldozer will Turbo more than 500 MHz with all cores active. I think it's mentioned in JF's Bulldozer Blog.

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A rumor is a rumor is a rumor. Do we know the exact base clock? Do we know that AMD won't use a different turbo frequency than they originally had said? You can't say until it's actually released.
If you're going to try to dismiss something AMD themselves have said as unreliable then there's no point arguing with you.
Edited by Usario - 7/29/11 at 12:25pm
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