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That's the point and idea that I have been trying to get across the whole time.
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1) Performance can decrease in programs that use four or less threads
2) With all the extra heat it generates you could overclock more if you turned it off, and then the performance gain becomes universal
I disagree. The extra overclocking headroom you would get from disabling HT (an extra 100-300mhz usually) comes no where near the 15-30% gains that HT can give in some circumstances. When it decreases performance, it's usually a very small amount (1-3% is what I've seen) which isn't anything to write home about.

Sure, HT isn't even that great, and it can be inefficient at times, but it does work.

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Sad isn't it?
Nonsense. They can be compared as long as it's in the same price bracket. Gosh, you remind me of the same sort of people who don't like comparing dual GPU cards to single GPU cards, even if they're the same price.
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I disagree. The extra overclocking headroom you would get from disabling HT (an extra 100-300mhz usually) comes no where near the 15-30% gains that HT can give in some circumstances. When it decreases performance, it's usually a very small amount (1-3% is what I've seen) which isn't anything to write home about.

Sure, HT isn't even that great, and it can be inefficient at times, but it does work.



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I agree, I would choose ht over more overclocking.
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I agree, I would choose ht over more overclocking.
Do you understand what happens when the pipeline isn't idle because the program is written efficiently? HT only helps if the pipeline is idle. You can find examples of well written programs and you'll see that HT will actually slow performance.
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Do you understand what happens when the pipeline isn't idle because the program is written efficiently? HT only helps if the pipeline is idle. You can find examples of well written programs and you'll see that HT will actually slow performance.
This.
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Do you understand what happens when the pipeline isn't idle because the program is written efficiently? HT only helps if the pipeline is idle. You can find examples of well written programs and you'll see that HT will actually slow performance.
Again, HT does not decrease performance by a noticeable amount. The decrease is so small it's not even worth mentioning, let alone using it as a basis for your argument.
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.....But when Intel fanboys can use HT against AMD they will run that topic into the ground
I hate always being beaten to the point and having to say "this". lol
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Again, HT does not decrease performance by a noticeable amount. The decrease is so small it's not even worth mentioning, let alone using it as a basis for your argument.
Add that small decrease in performance to a lower cpu speed and add $100 and that's my point of view.
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