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Ice Ages occur right after global heatings, as the quantity of O16 molecules (as oppose to a more balance O18/O16 ratio) cause massive amounts of precipitation. This, in turns, leads to the why the majority of the world freezes and thus cools down. This has no actual relation to CO2 emissions rather then we see a spike of CO2 ppm before an Ice Age occurs and or may contribute a significance to the heating (not as much as oppose to the sun directly). In reality, Ice Ages occur due to 3 main principles towards solar flux. If you take these 3 principles together, you actually see a direct relation to heatings, cooling, and known Ice Ages that have occur over the thousands of years when linked to O16/O18 ratios.
And wasn't there a mini Ice Age in the 1500s or so?
    
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98+ humidity? yeah we get that here in England, we usually call it raining... cause you know, thats kinda when it starts raining.
and everyone i know keeps their thermostat set at 25-35ºc so i'd say on average its pretty comfortable.

and how do you think your nuclear fuel is delivered? fresh air? nope it uses oil, massive massive amounts of oil...and then it uses oil to dispose of it too.
It's related to relative humidity, generally weather men don't tell us the real humidity. 100% relative humidity is FOG, look it up. That my friend is incredibly humid, that is the equivalent to a nice sauna. You take that up with 90 deg weather and you have some serious heat issues. Not to mention we are going to be getting 105 without the heat index added (humidity and such). You actually have a lot of humidity in England, however you don't even come close to the temps we do. Your ocean keeps you cool and keeps you warm, though you have a crappy climate. It's too rainy, kind of like Ireland. [edit] Beautiful landscape though.

[edit: nuclear fuel] Most waste is disposed of on site until it builds up enough to get shipped. Technically it's not oil, it's diesel that will be used to ship that. Which is a bi-product of us using gas. So really it's not a waste though it does burn off CO2 pretty bad, that is bad. We could change that though, we have the means and ability to run bio-diesel. That would still be non-eco friendly. So then what? We could spend the money and build an electric rail like Japan. Oh, but that would be way too friendly and costly. Shipping the waste/fuel really isn't a big deal compared to the watts you get per pellet of nuclear fuel. It's an extremely small problem indeed. We have very few other methods of electricity that produces such good results with such little waste, everything else currently depends on location.

Oh, it's funny too because my state was just recently on one of the advertisements here for using wind power. It actually made me smile. =) This isn't just something some knuckle head thinks about, our entire state really does push a friendly atmosphere about this. We even burn ethanol to help the economy and our farmers. That's mainly bio-fuel from corn bi-products fermented and added to gasoline, though it burns cleaner. =) MMMMMm even my state likes to be a dirty hippie.
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The sun is going through cycles of solar storms that are supposed to peak in 2012
No, we're just recovering from the last ice age.
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Hmm, this study is from one scientist, working in Alabama, a known supporter of intelligent design and long term critic of man made global warming...

I'll wait for the peer review thank you
So believing in intelligent design is supposed to discredit this guy?
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Im global warming agnostic. This study does little to sway me either way as the writer of the article is part of the Heartland Institute. Heres an exxcerpt from their About page:

Heartland's mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. Such solutions include parental choice in education, choice and personal responsibility in health care, market-based approaches to environmental protection, privatization of public services, and deregulation in areas where property rights and markets do a better job than government bureaucracies.


So basically sounds like a bunch of hard core conservatives writing the article. Not saying its total BS, just biased in that direction probably.

I'd really like to see a NPR for science studies. Publicly funded, no large donors, no profit motive. Thats research/analysis that I'd believe.
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Yes research has shown there are cycles...but they go in thousands of years. There has been a thousand year change in the last hudred years as far as glacier ice melt goes. the cause of this rapid change hasn't really been explained though the warmer temps in the poles are probably why. Which would be...global warming.
whats to say that after say 10 cycles or something there isnt an extreme change? say every 10,000 years or something? the movie Knowing worries me because of this exact reason, I mean if something like what happens in knowing happens there is NO escaping it.

nature 1-0 humanity

and if its not to do with the sun then i think everyones still looking at a really short term point of veiw. I mean wheres all the Electricity going to come from when all the natural gasses are used? We NEED to get more self sufficient simply thinking so blindly is going to ruin the race I mean what happens when petrol runs out and planes cant fly? forget ******* holidays im worried about food transport and saying that technology will save us is being silly. One of the main reason we have the technology we do is because of transport (asin look at the leap we've taken in the past 100-200 years or even the past 40!).
What I'm saying is that we're going to have to look into every possible energy source in the next few decades solar panels on roofs and geterators on down pipes for example otherwise the national (let alone worldwide power grid will get a bit short of electricity) ... tbh things will have to change if we're going to support a 6Bill+ population in the future we're going to have to change soon before its too late.

plus if your thinking 6Bill aint that much i did a little look on google the other day. And America (arguable one of the most powerful nations in the world atm) has 400M pop... china has a 1.3B pop and India 1.1B pop... so i doubt you'll be top dog for much longer (no offence)
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Im global warming agnostic. This study does little to sway me either way as the writer of the article is part of the Heartland Institute. Heres an exxcerpt from their About page:

Heartland's mission is to discover, develop, and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems. Such solutions include parental choice in education, choice and personal responsibility in health care, market-based approaches to environmental protection, privatization of public services, and deregulation in areas where property rights and markets do a better job than government bureaucracies.


So basically sounds like a bunch of hard core conservatives writing the article. Not saying its total BS, just biased in that direction probably.

I'd really like to see a NPR for science studies. Publicly funded, no large donors, no profit motive. Thats research/analysis that I'd believe.
Exactly. Just in case anyone is too lazy to do a bit of wiki-ing: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute .

This is NOT by any means a scientific article or even valid reporting of a set of empirical data. The Heartland institute is a libertarian think tank that is deep up the ass of tobacco companies, the oil industry, and and many extreme right activists (i.e. The Koch brothers). I consider myself a left-leaning social and fiscal moderate; as such, I put value in indepent, accurate analysis backed up by reliable SOURCES. I personally believe it is irresponsible the dominant species on Earth to bury our heads in the sand pertaining to our impact on the climate change trend; but even with my "bias", I can't see how this could hold water among the more "scientific" dissenters.


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Exactly. Just in case anyone is too lazy to do a bit of wiki-ing: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute .

This is NOT by any means a scientific article or even valid reporting of a set of empirical data. The Heartland institute is a libertarian think tank that is deep up the ass of tobacco companies, the oil industry, and and many extreme right activists (i.e. The Koch brothers). I consider myself a left-leaning social and fiscal moderate; as such, I put value in indepent, accurate analysis backed up by reliable SOURCES. I personally believe that it is irresponsible, being the dominant species on Earth, to bury our heads in the sand pertaining to our impact on the climate change trend; but even with my "bias", I can't see how this could hold water among the more "scientific" dissenters.


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Hmm, this study is from one scientist, working in Alabama, a known supporter of intelligent design and long term critic of man made global warming...

I'll wait for the peer review thank you
I live and work in Alabama, and I don't like your condescending tone.
    
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This is good news to hear, though the whole global warming thing has helped spur people into thinking about alternative fuel sources and helped those technologies slightly take off. I'd gladly buy an electric car that was developed in fear of global warming then end up paying 2$ a litre to fill up at the damn pump.
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