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I wondered why the last 3 winters have been getting progressively colder.

Last winter was a 1 degree shy of being the coldest temperature ever recorded here.
The melting of polar ice caps disrupts the transfer of warm water from the tropics to the north Atlantic, resulting in lower winter temperatures. Parts of Europe are warmer than Siberia during the winter despite being at the same latitude because of the heat "conveyor belt" into the north Atlantic. Disrupting that cycle would result in lower temperatures. Global warming doesn't necessarily mean the warming of each individual locale.

As others have mentioned, there isn't enough historical data for us to determine whether this is man-made or just a part of the normal cycle of the Earth. The Earth was in an ice age 50,000 years ago. Does that mean global warming's been going on for 50,000 years? Then again, 4 billion years ago, the Earth was a ball of molten rock. Has global cooling been going on for 4 billion years? There's not enough data to put this into perspective one way or the other.
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The melting of polar ice caps disrupts the transfer of warm water from the tropics to the north Atlantic, resulting in lower winter temperatures. Parts of Europe are warmer than Siberia during the winter despite being at the same latitude because of the heat "conveyor belt" into the north Atlantic. Disrupting that cycle would result in lower temperatures. Global warming doesn't necessarily mean the warming of each individual locale.
So what places will have Mediterranean climate in 100 years? Where should I start buying real estate?
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Everyone here should read the actual journal article. In comparing the CERES data to different coupled models the author removed the trends because the dataset is so short and they were comparing it to 100 years of model output. The key here is they are looking at the climate sensitivity of year to year variations, they intentionally removed the trend (i.e. the global climate change signal). This paper says nothing about anthropogenic climate change, it is about the sensitivity of interannual changes to radiative forcing. Also, the paper would have more value if they compared the 10 years of data to different 10 year periods from the models instead of one 100 year period.
 
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So what places will have Mediterranean climate in 100 years? Where should I start buying real estate?
I already bought out all the good locations.
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I already bought out all the good locations.
I hope you don't mean anywhere in Los Angeles
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http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

This seems kindof at odds with what the article is saying~
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What a terrible article. If I have to read the word "alarmist" or "alarmist computer models" one more time I think I'll scream.
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Air pollution still drives up healthcare costs and makes millions of Americans sick. That is the other hidden crisis that Americans don't hear about. Let's not even get into the health effects of environmental mercury & other carcinogens as a result of coal fired power plants.

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/health-costs-of-california-air-pollution/
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so why are the polar ice caps still melting? whats the cause? polar bears generate too much heat?
This means that Carbon in the atmosphere isn't whats heating up the planet, it could easily be a natural occurrence.

You know, like the ice ages?

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Yes research has shown there are cycles...but they go in thousands of years. There has been a thousand year change in the last hudred years as far as glacier ice melt goes. the cause of this rapid change hasn't really been explained though the warmer temps in the poles are probably why. Which would be...global warming.
iirc the extremes (eg. Ice Age, Heat Age) tend to come and go faster than the normal cycles.

The cycle speeds up as it hits the extreme, in other words.
    
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If you're all wondering why the polar ice caps are melting the answer is very simple:

Due to the fact that 2012 looms ahead of us just over a year's length in time, the first tilting of the poles has begun. Those poles are being tilted in a direction of space where although unknown as of yet, there is a massive stream of radiation spewing from a giant invisible super-massive-quasar which hits both poles at the same time. This invisible quasar is home to a omnipotent people whom have known about this forthcoming and have asked the mighty invisible quasar to lessen the energy field and the super-massive-quasar laughed in their face. They have since, as being unbridled in power in their region of space as omnipotent people, started a war against the quasar which has strengthened the radiation spewing in our direction.

I read all about it in this secret book. Pretty amazing stuff. Very scientific.
    
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