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post #1 of 15
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Hey guys...

Talk to me about water cooling and a little bit about overclocking and I can carry on an intelligent enough conversation. But, a good friend of mine has asked for my help in setting himself up with a home server. This is what he wrote to me:

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So I am looking to build a Windows Home Server. I will need your expertise again haha.

Basically I will need a case with 3 HD bays and a processor that is energy efficient / low power. i will probably want 4GB of DDR3 in there and a power supply that can power 3 HD's. or, i could get one of those 4-bay external enclosures via USB or eSATA etc. the video card can be integrated in the MOBO since it's going to be a headless unit and will only need a graphical interface for initial setup and installation of Crash Plan backup software. everything after that can be done remotely.

i've been looking on Newegg at micro-ITX AMD motherboards and honestly i am overwhelmed with the insane number of possibilities.

i need your expertise haha
I kinda understand him about being a bit overwhelmed. So bottom line, this is what he needs:

1) Case
2) M-ITX mobo (integrated graphics preferred)
3) Processor (AMD)
4) Let's assume 3 HDD's.
5) DDR3 (I have some extra Kingston HyperX Blu laying around I can hook him up with)
6) Able to run "Crash Plan" backup software
7) Low power

I put together this:

1) Rosewill Smart One ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($44.99)
2) ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 AMD 880G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ($54.99)
3) AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ($59.99)
4) 3 x HITACHI Deskstar 5K3000 HDS5C3020ALA632 (0F12117) 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($69.99 x 3 = $209.97)
5) Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (Free)
6) WHS 2011 64-bit ($59.99)
7) Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply ($44.99)

TOTAL: $474.92


Guys... please be gentle!!! Let me know why or why not on any of the components I listed and if not a good choice, suggest one if possible? Also... do you see anything I am leaving out?
post #2 of 15
Which did he want, mini-ITX or micro-ATX? Does it even matter if it's small?

Your parts look fine, I would opt for HAF 912 for $10 more and maybe a small drive(SSD or whatever) for OS to keep it separated from the other three drives.

You could go with a Zacate board also if this is just file storage. If he could let us know budget + server use there may be reasons to switch some hardware.
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post #3 of 15
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Which did he want, mini-ITX or micro-ATX? Does it even matter if it's small?

Your parts look fine, I would opt for HAF 912 for $10 more and maybe a small drive(SSD or whatever) for OS to keep it separated from the other three drives.

You could go with a Zacate board also if this is just file storage. If he could let us know budget + server use there may be reasons to switch some hardware.
Ok... his thought was on ITX BUT I switched to M-ATX because of the fact he wants the three HDD's. Going with an ITX case that would require external units for the HDD's and increasing his cost. Right? The unit will be placed "in a corner" an not really worked with that much once it is set up. That's why we went with on-board graphics. Lastly, I saw that DDR3 ITX mobo's cost more than DDR3 m-ATX mobos. He is a bit of a mizer if you know what I mean...

Good call on the 912. I like the HAF cases (for obvious reasons) and had completely forgotten about that. I also thought about the ssd but thought that since the only thing he would do is file/media storage (not intending on media playback with this server) that maybe that would be overkill. Additionally, not sure how much space WHS 2011 requires. Maybe a 40GB SSD would be sufficient? maybe less? Maybe I'll look into this. He has a WD TV. I am not completely sure, but I believe this is what he has. He will store his media on the server to watch from his laptop or on his 50" LCD screen through the WD TV. For now, that's all he intends on. He's not much of a gamer.
Edited by Kahbrohn - 7/28/11 at 5:42pm
post #4 of 15
Then stick with micro-ATX, will be cheaper and if it's in a corner, who cares. You could fit a decent amount into The Lian Li Q08 mini-ITX case but that case is twice as much.

40GB SSD should be fine, just a suggestion to keep the OS on a different drive than the rest of his media, could just get another small HDD.

Should be good to go.

Other option costs a bit more if you went
i3 2100T ($135) + a LGA1155 board(60-100+ depending on features) to get a 35W CPU; probably not worth it
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He did some research and for some reason discarded Intel as an option. Didn't go into it any further.

He will need a router as well if he wants to connect wirelessly, right? Or is there a better way to work with that? I use the DIR-655 to good effect but not sure if maybe an internal card is possible with a server.
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Best thing to do is connect the server via ethernet to the router to utilize Gigabit speeds if available. The other PCs can access the server via wireless.
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The Lian Li Q08 mini-ITX will hold 6 hard drives, I have 3 in mine. And I would definatly go with an 2100t over amd but if its just server really wont matter.
Edited by -bl4ck- - 8/1/11 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by -bl4ck- View Post
The Lian Li Q08 mini-ITX will hold 5 hard drives, I have 3 in mine. And I would definatly go with an 2100t over amd but if its just server really wont matter.
Thanks...

I looked at the Intel. Low wattage @ 35 watts. But the price is up there at about $135. As you said, it's for a server so maybe it shouldn't be that much of a deal in the end performance-wise.

I do like that Lian li though... In all honesty, I skipped over it because of the price.

I am going to bring this up with my friend. I have asked him what budget he plans on but he hasn't said anything yet. He is a cheap skate though but hey, I'd feel better giving him the options and letting him decide in the end.
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The Lian Li Q08 mini-ITX will hold 5 hard drives, I have 3 in mine. And I would definatly go with an 2100t over amd but if its just server really wont matter.
I thought it held 6? Four in the top rack, then two in the bottom? And then TECHNICALLY you can fit another HDD in the dvd bay. Right?
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post #10 of 15
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Cooling-wise, how is that Lian Li Q08?
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