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Gentlemen,

I got an issue with my router.

I recently upgrade my Internet from 30mbps to 60mbps, mainly to increase my download cap.

Prior to this, a speed test (on my ISP website) would give me 33-34 mbit/s. Now, with the new speed, I get the same 33-34.

Without the router (directly into the modem), I get my 60 mbps. Hence the choked router.

My router is a SMCWBR14-G Barricade™ g Wireless Broadband Router. 10/100 Mbps.

Why 33-34 as a limit? Why not 10 or 100mbps. Please explain.
Any upgrade recommendation?
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Take an old pc load a linux distro on the box, an old p4 will be way faster than your little router. It might take up more power but if you want speed thats the way to go. I really like untangled because of all the options but a simple one would be ipcop. Both can be set up as easily as a home router in case you're not familiar with linux, nothing beyond simple home network knowledge is needed.
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Originally Posted by UsedPaperclip;14386774 
Take an old pc load a linux distro on the box, an old p4 will be way faster than your little router. It might take up more power but if you want speed thats the way to go. I really like untangled because of all the options but a simple one would be ipcop. Both can be set up as easily as a home router in case you're not familiar with linux, nothing beyond simple home network knowledge is needed.

Thanks for the feedback. While I consider your option, I don't have at the moment an old working spare computer to use. Also, I don't understand how to achieve the same functionality with an old PC (wireless, 4 LAN ports).

Do you understand why I get only 33mbps? Where does that number come from? My router is clearly the problem right? But why ain't the limit 10mbps?

Is is related to the number of device on my LAN? I got 3. 100/3=33.3. But I removed one and still got the same result.

Apart from a PC, any router recommended. What is the specs that bottlenecks me?
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Originally Posted by GrandMax;14390638 
Thanks for the feedback. While I consider your option, I don't have at the moment an old working spare computer to use. Also, I don't understand how to achieve the same functionality with an old PC (wireless, 4 LAN ports).

Do you understand why I get only 33mbps? Where does that number come from? My router is clearly the problem right? But why ain't the limit 10mbps?

Is is related to the number of device on my LAN? I got 3. 100/3=33.3. But I removed one and still got the same result.

Apart from a PC, any router recommended. What is the specs that bottlenecks me?

The 10/100 refers to the speed of the lan ports.

Either 10MBps or 100MBps.

Obviously the ports are running at 100MBps which they should be.

As for an upgrade can you tell me how your router connects to your modem ?
Edited by Skrillex - 7/29/11 at 6:37am
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100m means 100mbps not megabytes. one megabit = 1024kbps. 1024kbps x 100 = 102400kbps. or 100 megabits. Divide a bit by 8 to get a byte. So 100mbps divided by 8 is 12.8MB/s. 30mbps / 8 = 3.84MB/s. 60mbps / 8 = 7.6MB/s.

You should have no issue reaching that speed unless your router or onboard lan is running at 10mbps instead of 100mbps.

Of course if someone is downloading while you are doing a speedtest it will affect the result. Make sure you're the only one using it at the time.

I think that your ISP hasn't upgraded you at all.

Try www.speedtest.net for speed tests as well.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linkin93;14390686 
100m means 100mbps not megabytes. one megabit = 1024kbps. 1024kbps x 100 = 102400kbps. or 100 megabits. Divide a bit by 8 to get a byte. So 100mbps divided by 8 is 12.8MB/s. 30mbps / 8 = 3.84MB/s. 60mbps / 8 = 7.6MB/s.

You should have no issue reaching that speed unless your router or onboard lan is running at 10mbps instead of 100mbps.

Of course if someone is downloading while you are doing a speedtest it will affect the result. Make sure you're the only one using it at the time.

I think that your ISP hasn't upgraded you at all.

Try www.speedtest.net for speed tests as well.
Well if he's testing at 60 through the modem then at 34 through the router it's a fair assumption they have upgraded him.

It would be useful to know which provider he is using/technologies they employ etc.
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Port speed does NOT equal routing speed/capability.
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Simply build one or use an old rig as a router. I recommend buying one too but I always like DIYs.
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Originally Posted by Skrillex;14390648 
The 10/100 refers to the speed of the lan ports.

Either 10MBps or 100MBps.

Obviously the ports are running at 100MBps which they should be.

As for an upgrade can you tell me how your router connects to your modem ?

I got a network cable from the modem to the router.
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Originally Posted by Skrillex;14390708 
Well if he's testing at 60 through the modem then at 34 through the router it's a fair assumption they have upgraded him.

It would be useful to know which provider he is using/technologies they employ etc.

It is a cable modem, the ISP does not disclose.

http://www.videotron.com/service/internet-services/internet-access/ultimate-60

I know, the download cap sucks and the price is not that good, we are getting raped in Canada. It 1.5$/GB after you have exceeded the cap.

I guess we know the router chokes. It is a 10/100. Why 33.3? Is it normal not to reach 60mbps with that router?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.N00bLaR;14391292 
Port speed does NOT equal routing speed/capability.

This ^. What does then?
Edited by GrandMax - 7/29/11 at 9:02am
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I still don't get why you can DSL with a modem/router in one unit but can't for cable. Makes no sense and drives up cost.
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